2/28-3/1 (SA): Sham S. (Gr. III); Baldwin S. (Gr. III)

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

With Kafwain over Rubiano, and from the Piece of Pie family, it's something of a miracle he could win at 8f. Maybe it was the maturity advantage that Kafwain had late at 2 and early in the classic campaign, passed down.

Why do you think he will handle dirt better than Pioneerof the Nile, I Want Revenge, Chocolate Candy, et. al? They are most of them as well dirt-bred as The P. Is it his front-running style? Won't get dirt kicked in his face?

Sweetheart, the Synth Jocks are the ones wearing the Hockey masks.

[justindew]

I'm terrible at predicting Beyer Speed Figures, but my guess for the TP's Sham is 112.

[Travis Stone]

I'm guessing the figure has no relevency when it comes to handicapping TP for the Derby.

[10 pnt move up]

If I here the term "figure" and synthetics when talking about a horses ability again I think I may be sick.........they have no relevancy, none.

You have to be able to understand the way the race was run and then judge the final time, its so extreme that it takes "pace makes the race" to a whole new level. Pace makes the final time is what it does.