2/28-3/1 (GP): FOY (Gr. II); Canadian (Gr. III); Davona Dale (Gr. II)

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by CSC

Obvious question is who looks better in the Florida Derby assuming that the first 2 finishers go to the Florida Derby.

Quality Road. He showed a new gear today, rated close to a fast pace and drew away convincingly. Theregoesjojo looks like a really nice horse, but thus far he's yet to show enough early speed to be a good bet in the Florida Derby at probably shorter odds than today.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Quality Road. He showed a new gear today, rated close to a fast pace and drew away convincingly. Theregoesjojo looks like a really nice horse, but thus far he's yet to show enough early speed to be a good bet in the Florida Derby at probably shorter odds than today.

You could be right, hard for me to say at the moment, around 2 turns Theregoesjojo may be naturally closer to the pace a point worth noting. The betting surprised me today, 15-1 ML to 9/2...

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by CSC

You could be right, hard for me to say at the moment, around 2 turns Theregoesjojo may be naturally closer to the pace a point worth noting. The betting surprised me today, 15-1 ML to 9/2...

It didn't surprise me. The Gulfstream morning lines are terrible.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Quality Road. He showed a new gear today, rated close to a fast pace and drew away convincingly. Theregoesjojo looks like a really nice horse, but thus far he's yet to show enough early speed to be a good bet in the Florida Derby at probably shorter odds than today.

He got his first time lasix.
He carried 114 lbs.

This will be the last time for both.

Next race will be interesting.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pgardn

He got his first time lasix.
He carried 114 lbs.

This will be the last time for both.

Next race will be interesting.

Theregoesjojo carried 116 and Quality Road beat him by 4 1/4. The nearest highweight horse was 8 1/4 lengths behind QR. You can't honestly think this was a major factor.

And Lasix either helps a horse or it doesn't. It's not something that helps the first time, then stops having any effect.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Theregoesjojo carried 116 and Quality Road beat him by 4 1/4. The nearest highweight horse was 8 1/4 lengths behind QR. You can't honestly think this was a major factor.

And Lasix either helps a horse or it doesn't. It's not something that helps the first time, then stops having any effect.

It is clearly something that can help improve a performance 1st time
after it is used.

And if you are implying lasix will keep helping improve
a horse past the 1st or 2nd that is not true. The real question is does the
horse move forward physically (not medically because the horse will stay on lasix)
off a very good performance in which the horse had some advantages.
Both horses had some weight advantages.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Theregoesjojo carried 116 and Quality Road beat him by 4 1/4. The nearest highweight horse was 8 1/4 lengths behind QR. You can't honestly think this was a major factor.

No.
I dont. not major.
But it did not hurt.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Quality Road. He showed a new gear today, rated close to a fast pace and drew away convincingly.

There was a time when I would have never believed that a son of Elusive Quality could win a major race at a classic distance. He already has sired a Kentucky Derby winner in Smarty Jones and last years Breeders Cup Classic winner Raven Pass.

I think he's without question the fastest horse Bill Mott ever trained. Back before they reconfigured Gulfstream - it was a very speed friendly track. Elusive Quality ran only two times there in his life - and posted Beyers of 122 and 123 in those two races. As fast as he was, he amazingly never won a stake race on dirt.





And from the fastest sprinter Mott ever trained .... to probably the worst horse Mott has trained in the last 20 years ... I give you Kobla ... the mother of Quality Road.



Pretty impressive two race career.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

There was a time when I would have never believed that a son of Elusive Quality could win a major race at a classic distance. He already has sired a Kentucky Derby winner in Smarty Jones and last years Breeders Cup Classic winner Raven Pass.

I think he's without question the fastest horse Bill Mott ever trained. Back before they reconfigured Gulfstream - it was a very speed friendly track. Elusive Quality ran only two times there in his life - and posted Beyers of 122 and 123 in those two races. As fast as he was, he amazingly never won a stake race on dirt.





And from the fastest sprinter Mott ever trained .... to probably the worst horse Mott has trained in the last 20 years ... I give you Kobla ... the mother of Quality Road.



Pretty impressive two race career.

stark contrast there!

[cakes44]

I only got one look at it, but didn't Theregoesjojo completely wipe out the #1 at the break? Not that I'm complaining because I actually had him.

[justindew]

Does anyone make anything of the fact that Quality Road isn't a Triple Crown nominee?

I mean it's only $600 to nominate. And now it will cost $6,000.

Odd.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by justindew

Does anyone make anything of the fact that Quality Road isn't a Triple Crown nominee?

I mean it's only $600 to nominate. And now it will cost $6,000.

Odd.

That must have really dampened the connection's enthusiasm.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That must have really dampened the connection's enthusiasm.

I'm more interested in what they think about their horse's chances to go long.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by justindew

Does anyone make anything of the fact that Quality Road isn't a Triple Crown nominee?

I mean it's only $600 to nominate. And now it will cost $6,000.

Odd.

I was surprised initially...I assume they won't worry about the 6K to nominate now....and on a side note, I was dissapointed that he wasn't even eligible in the Road to the Roses game. I wanted him in my stable.

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

....and on a side note, I was dissapointed that he wasn't even eligible in the Road to the Roses game. I wanted him in my stable.

I guess you will be able to pick him up later.
Along with everyone else.