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Old 02-28-2009, 09:35 AM
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Yes, they can be quite scary, but they are very unlikely to cost you the P-4 at Gulfstream today. My thought is that Beethoven might do that. It is obviously a tough race, and I realize that you have to exclude somebody to make it a playable wager, but I was very impressed with his effort in the Holy Bull. I also like that he is cutting back and figures to be just off the pace, while most of the other contenders are stretching out.
Well, uh, yeah... Trying the single in the first leg can beat the ticket... Any one of 3-4 others can beat it in the Canadian... EVERYONE not used in the Fountain can bust it... Any firster in the turf maiden nightcap can beat it.

What are you supposed to do? Go 8x10x11x10? You like Beethoven. Great. He undoubtedly can win. Despite John Ward.
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:55 AM
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Steve,

Please double check I think Ventana is the #9 in the Sham, not the #6 (Belfour Park)

Thanks again for all the inputs, and BOL today!
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Old 02-28-2009, 09:57 AM
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Please double check I think Ventana is the #9 in the Sham, not the #6 (Belfour Park)

Thanks again for all the inputs, and BOL today!
Thx J.. Indeed... Ventana is the #9.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:00 AM
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Well, uh, yeah... Trying the single in the first leg can beat the ticket... Any one of 3-4 others can beat it in the Canadian... EVERYONE not used in the Fountain can bust it... Any firster in the turf maiden nightcap can beat it.

What are you supposed to do? Go 8x10x11x10? You like Beethoven. Great. He undoubtedly can win. Despite John Ward.
I totally agree Steve gotta try to narrow down someplace, lots of pitfalls in the squence. Great points, and good luck today.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:02 AM
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Well, uh, yeah... Trying the single in the first leg can beat the ticket... Any one of 3-4 others can beat it in the Canadian... EVERYONE not used in the Fountain can bust it... Any firster in the turf maiden nightcap can beat it.

What are you supposed to do? Go 8x10x11x10? You like Beethoven. Great. He undoubtedly can win. Despite John Ward.
No. He can't.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:04 AM
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No. He can't.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:23 AM
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AQU SCRATCHES/CHANGES:


1

4 Dr Silver Packet Early NO SUPERFECTA
7 End of an Era Early


5

5 Saratoga Lulaby Early NO SUPERFECTA
9 Counting House Early


6

4 Peytons Heart Early
6 We Get It Early


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4 Hoist the Gala Early


9

1 Spiriton Early


OTHER

6

1 Brook Dance RIDGELING
3 Driven by Saarland GELDING


7

10 Future Prospect BLINKERS ON
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Well, uh, yeah... Trying the single in the first leg can beat the ticket... Any one of 3-4 others can beat it in the Canadian... EVERYONE not used in the Fountain can bust it... Any firster in the turf maiden nightcap can beat it.

What are you supposed to do? Go 8x10x11x10?
Right, obviously you have to limit the ticket, and it is a tough sequence I think. More than anything, I was just interested in getting your opinion regarding what it was that you didn't like about Beethoven in this spot.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:29 AM
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Right, obviously you have to limit the ticket, and it is a tough sequence I think. More than anything, I was just curious about what it was you didn't like about Beethoven.
For a Sky Mesa out of a Carson City mare, he's surpringly slow for a race like this. And at this racetrack, the way it's been playing to speed and the way this race looks like it will be run, he may lose contact with the front half of the field and be left with too much to do going the flat mile.
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Does Passager have any chance in the Canadian Turf? Thinking of using him in the OTB contest.
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Does Passager have any chance in the Canadian Turf? Thinking of using him in the OTB contest.
He probably does, but I have no idea what to do with him. I'm the worst when it comes to anticipating Euro performance. (Unless they're Dutch, Danish or Finnish girls. Then I know EXACTLY what to expect..)
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GULFSTREAM -- Saturday, February 28 -- EARLY CHG'S

Track: Fast Turf: Firm Rail: 36 Feet

Race 3: Scratch #6

Race 4: Scratch #8
#10 First Time Lasix

Race 5: Scratch #2

Race 6: #5 #11
Jockey Changes: #3 C H Marquez Jr.
#10 Manuel Aguilar

Race 7: Scratch #1 (POE) #5 #7 #9

Race 9: Scratch #4 #6

Race 10: Scratch #13 #14 #15 #16
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[Beethoven] may lose contact with the front half of the field and be left with too much to do going the flat mile.
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Despite John Ward

ATRB show ideas

Jerry Bossert
John Ward

I'll let you know when i can fill 3 hours!
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