Gotham Stakes

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's not whether the rider can hold him, it's whether the horse is willing to do as he's told. no rider will fight a horse and win the battle-either the horse will relax, or he'll fight himself into exhaustion-which won't win him the race.

Rene Douglas thinks you're full of crap.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28075

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Rene Douglas thinks you're full of crap.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28075

lol
how will i go on??

[the_fat_man]

While I appreciate the lesson about the obvious, it's actually NOT as obvious as all that.

To get a horse to rate you do in fact need to RESTRAIN IT, in most cases against its will
but not how Douglas, Homeister, and countless others do it

the horse needs to be restrained without being choked out
we typically don't get this
what we get is the extremes: not enough hold or too much hold

though I suspect that if it were left up to the horses, we'd probably have some better run races --- couldn't be any worse

do the mofo's who train ever watch races or do they just go by what the (in most cases) idiot jocks tell them?
it's rhetorical

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

While I appreciate the lesson about the obvious, it's actually NOT as obvious as all that.

To get a horse to rate you do in fact need to RESTRAIN IT
but not how Douglas, Homeister, and countless others do it

the horse needs to be restrained without being choked out

though I suspect that if it were left up to the horses, we'd probably have some better run races --- couldn't be any worse

the problem is, you have to have the horse willing to be restrained-and sometimes horses just will not do it, regardless of what's tried. but i'm sure you knew that already too.

Originally Posted by Danzig

the problem is, you have to have the horse willing to be restrained-and sometimes horses just will not do it, regardless of what's tried. but i'm sure you knew that already too.

No he did not.

Horses are live big short haired bicycles.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

While I appreciate the lesson about the obvious, it's actually NOT as obvious as all that.

To get a horse to rate you do in fact need to RESTRAIN IT, in most cases against its will
but not how Douglas, Homeister, and countless others do it

the horse needs to be restrained without being choked out
we typically don't get this
what we get is the extremes: not enough hold or too much hold

though I suspect that if it were left up to the horses, we'd probably have some better run races --- couldn't be any worse

do the mofo's who train ever watch races or do they just go by what the (in most cases) idiot jocks tell them?
it's rhetorical

Add Santos to your notable list. Used to make me crazy.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Rene Douglas thinks you're full of crap.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28075

Nice ride by Rene on Ash today.