Jan 24th at GP just keeps looking weirder and weirder

[gales0678]

steve - are beyer's #'s wrong on some of these days?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by gales0678

steve - are beyer's #'s wrong on some of these days?

No.. but the track has been funky as can be. There have been windy days where the track is fast, but very cuppy, dry and hard to get over. There has been absolutely no rain for weeks on end. The inside was the worst place to be at times (deep and tiring), and everything wide was winning.. It's been a very confusing surface.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Kasept

No.. but the track has been funky as can be. There have been windy days where the track is fast, but very cuppy, dry and hard to get over. There has been absolutely no rain for weeks on end. The inside was the worst place to be at times (deep and tiring), and everything wide was winning.. It's been a very confusing surface.

steve can you get the track super on and ask him some questions about what drugs has brought up here?

maybe there are more answers

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by gales0678

steve can you get the track super on and ask him some questions about what drugs has brought up here?

maybe there are more answers

If the Super knows he would be smart not to share them with the planet.. Moreover he he admits any changes in the surfaces it makes him look like a fool or worse a crook

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by freddymo

If the Super knows he would be smart not to share them with the planet.. Moreover he he admits any changes in the surfaces it makes him look like a fool or worse a crook

Freddy has been paying him off.

Him and the track super handicap the next days card together each night. If they like a speed horse they get the inside path like a paved highway. if they like an outside closer - they make the inside paths into a plowed field.

They also try and change the speed of the track a lot each day to foul up all the figure makers.

Needless to say - they're cleaning up so far this meet!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Freddy has been paying him off.

Him and the track super handicap the next days card together each night. If they like a speed horse they get the inside path like a paved highway. if they like an outside closer - they make the inside path into a plowed field.

They also try and change the speed of the track a lot each day to foul up all the figure makers.

Needless to say - they're cleaning up so far this meet!

the perfect DT post..You are learning

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by gales0678

steve can you get the track super on and ask him some questions about what drugs has brought up here? maybe there are more answers

Honestly? Those sharecroppers are lucky they can remember where they leave the keys to the tractors overnight. They're frequently not sure if there is water in the tanks of the wagons. They couldn't tell you where the sun sets. Their input would not be helpful..

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Honestly? Those sharecroppers are lucky they can remember where they leave the keys to the tractors overnight. They're frequently not sure if there is water in the tanks of the wagons. They couldn't tell you where the sun sets. Their input would not be helpful..

steve the big a seems to be all speed recently , if you owned a closer would you even bother running there right now?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by gales0678

steve the big a seems to be all speed recently , if you owned a closer would you even bother running there right now?

Owning horses are for idiots who like pain

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by gales0678

steve the big a seems to be all speed recently , if you owned a closer would you even bother running there right now?

I haven't watched much AQU the last 7-10 days.. But the track had been very fair overall before that. If there's a bit of a bias toward speed right now, it will level out soon enough. The Inner Track Speed thing has really become something of an old wives' tale.

(But if speed has an advantage now, I'd run my closer, get thumped and come back in 3-4 weeks at a price hoping that Serling didn't point out the horse running against the bias on 'Trips and Traps'...)

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I haven't watched much AQU the last 7-10 days.. But the track had been very fair overall before that. If there's a bit of a bias toward speed right now, it will level out soon enough. The Inner Track Speed thing has really become something of an old wives' tale.

(But if speed has an advantage now, I'd run my closer, get thumped and come back in 3-4 weeks at a price hoping that Serling didn't point out the horse running against the bias on 'Trips and Traps'...)

NYRA canceled Trips and Traps... The new show is "Horse House" featuring Dr Serling diagonosing degenerate horse players with no shot at winning..

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Kasept

I haven't watched much AQU the last 7-10 days.. But the track had been very fair overall before that. If there's a bit of a bias toward speed right now, it will level out soon enough. The Inner Track Speed thing has really become something of an old wives' tale.

(But if speed has an advantage now, I'd run my closer, get thumped and come back in 3-4 weeks at a price hoping that Serling didn't point out the horse running against the bias on 'Trips and Traps'...)

Steve, while the track has been very fair overall, and I tip my hat off the track crew, you need look no further than yesterdays 5th race in which Indys Forum shot to the lead and never looked back, winning by 4 over City by Sea, another speed horse, who was another 4 lengths in front of the 3rd place finisher to know that the track was favoring speed. Seems like you had to be on or near the lead with a pretty ground saving trip to win the last few days. Hopefully, it will get back to playing fairly this week as I have personally really enjoyed this meet this far. That being said, I adjusted for the bias yesterday and did pretty well.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by gales0678

are beyer's #'s wrong on some of these days?

If the final times are accurate, the track and weather is consistant, and the races on the card are run at common distances on the dirt ... No .. the dirt figs are never going to be wrong any more than a single point or two.

If the final times aren't accurate, the track and weather is very inconsistant, and or the dirt races are run at oddball distances .. yes .. even the dirt figures can become nothing more than educated guesses.

The turf figures .. I personally don't bother even looking at them.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If the final times are accurate, the track and weather is consistant, and the races on the card are run at common distances on the dirt ... No .. the dirt figs are never going to be wrong any more than a single point or two.

If the final times aren't accurate, the track and weather is very inconsistant, and or the dirt races are run at oddball distances .. yes .. even the dirt figures can become nothing more than educated guesses.

The turf figures .. I personally don't bother even looking at them.

I don't admire yours.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by gales0678

steve - are beyer's #'s wrong on some of these days?

I admire your determination.