I'm watching the draw, here we go folks

post the riva ridge, imeam marvin leroy

[2Hot4TV]

OK, Oracle who do you like? Do you see Sunriver improving off his last race? I liked the way his kept coming and didn't quit in his last.

[dellinger63]

the field with trainer, jock, ML
PP HORSE TRAINER JOCKEY ODDS
1 PLATINUM COUPLE Joseph Lostritto Jose Espinoza 30-1
2 SUNRIVER Todd Pletcher Rafael Bejarano 4-1
3 HEMINGWAY'S KEY Nick Zito Jeremy Rose 15-1
4 BOB AND JOHN Bob Baffert Garrett Gomez 5-1
5 HIGH FINANCE Richard Violette Eibar Coa 12-1
6 OH SO AWESOME James Jerkens Mike Smith 20-1
7 DEPUTY GLITTERS Thomas Albertrani Edgar Prado 15-1
8 JAZIL Kiaran McLaughlin Fernando Jara 10-1
9 BLUEGRASS CAT Todd Pletcher John Velazquez 3-1
10 DOUBLE GALORE Myung Kwon Cho Mike Luzzi 30-1
11 STEPPENWOLFER Dan Peitz Robby Albarado 9-2
12 SACRED LIGHT David Hofmans Victor Espinoza 15-1

All carry 126 pounds

[randallscott35]

I like Sunriver. Would love to find a bomb, but I think the logicals are the ones that will decide this.

[Cajungator26]

I think I'm going to take a chance and play Oh So Awesome in a tri box along with Steppenwolfer, Bluegrass Cat and perhaps Bob and John.

The thing i need to remember is Zito always has his horses ready to run in this race so im definately including him in my tickets

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

I actually am going to use Sacred Light, as well as Steppenwolfer. I am not sure what to do with the others yet. I am definitely not using Platinum Couple and Bob and John.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I actually am going to use Sacred Light, as well as Steppenwolfer. I am not sure what to do with the others yet. I am definitely not using Platinum Couple and Bob and John.

It's tough for me to use Sacred Light after reading this...


Sacred Light worked six furlongs in 1:16.42 over the Belmont main track on Tuesday. The gray or roan Holy Bull colt received some unexpected company from two horses from another barn who passed him coming out of the far turn.

"I'm glad it happened," Hofmans said. "He got a lot of dirt in his face, and he ran through it. The best part of the work is that he was finishing, and he galloped strong. I didn't care about the time—I wanted him to get around that turn, and I wanted him finishing. It was about the way he works. He looks like he needed the work. He was blowing pretty good."

I'm not sure I like the fact that he was blowing pretty good.

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

OK, Oracle who do you like? Do you see Sunriver improving off his last race? I liked the way his kept coming and didn't quit in his last.

Is it just me? I just see Sunriver as a overrated slow plodder type, maybe he'll proove me wrong, but I don't think so. I like Bob and John here.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

Is it just me? I just see Sunriver as a overrated slow plodder type, maybe he'll proove me wrong, but I don't think so. I like Bob and John here.

You are right, all out to get past Lewis Michael.

I like High Finance, Deputy Glitters and Blue Grass Cat for the top 3. BandJ has been going for a long time and could be over the top, but I wouldn't be surprised if he won, looks like he's built like a stayer....

[Thunder Gulch]

I disagree on Sunriver. He closed into a paceless race last time and made a move at Gulfstream on a day when nobody made up any ground. His only ugly race was in the slop. All considered, I think he has as good of a shot as any, though the price won't be very generous.

[Exceller]

High Finance is clearly the horse to beat, especially if it is wet.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by Exceller

High Finance is clearly the horse to beat, especially if it is wet.

You are reading the form upside down...good shot for last if Platinum Couple runs better.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

You are reading the form upside down...good shot for last if Platinum Couple runs better.

I guess you haven't seen him recently. He can run all day and he has the fastest times of anyone in the race over this track and will love a wet track.

[Thunder Gulch]

At m/l odds, I'd take a shot on Deputy Glitters Albertrani and Prado. Extremely wide in the Derby, hated the slop at AQ, but already beat Bluegrass Cat and is 5x the price.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

I disagree on Sunriver. He closed into a paceless race last time and made a move at Gulfstream on a day when nobody made up any ground. His only ugly race was in the slop. All considered, I think he has as good of a shot as any, though the price won't be very generous.

What's Sunriver going to do in another paceless race going against classier horses, not much. If he wasn't a full brother to Ashado and trained by Pletcher, he would never get this much attention. He's lucky to be a Graded Stakes Winner, the Peter Pan was an awful group.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

What's Sunriver going to do in another paceless race going against classier horses, not much. If he wasn't a full brother to Ashado and trained by Pletcher, he would never get this much attention. He's lucky to be a Graded Stakes Winner, the Peter Pan was an awful group.

Sunriver just won the Peter Pan, and had a very good Florida Derby. He was only a few lengths away from the eventual KD winner in that race. I am going to use him because I just can't pass up a nice, improving Pletcher horse.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

Is it just me? I just see Sunriver as a overrated slow plodder type, maybe he'll proove me wrong, but I don't think so. I like Bob and John here.

I see both Bob and John and Sunriver as the same type of plodders. Both are not going to dazzle you with a burst of speed ,but they are not quitters.

Yes zito has had one win. He also has a 51% in the money ratio from his fifteen starters in the belmont stakes. hes 15-1-6-1.Some of the horses were Andomedas hero for second last year. first and third in 2004 with birdstone and royal assault.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by david1025

Yes zito has had one win. He also has a 51% in the money ratio from his fifteen starters in the belmont stakes. hes 15-1-6-1.Some of the horses were Andomedas hero for second last year. first and third in 2004 with birdstone and royal assault.

Thanks.. that's actually better than I remembered. The last two have been good for his overall record.