Arod - Positive Test

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

no HOF for A-Rod now.

Who will make the HOF who has played lately??

Ken Griffey Jr.

some pitchers

Puhols

Manny

hopefully Howard, Utley, Rollins, Victorino, Werth, Hamels after their long career's (a girl can hope right)

I don't see how you can not put A-Rod in the HOF and put anyone from this era in as long as there are 103 names unreleased. Either release all their names and judge them accordingly or don't single A-Rod out cause his name is one of the 104 that came out. I'd love it if Griffey's name was on there. Jeter too but I think he only juiced in '99 before signing the big contract.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I don't see how you can not put A-Rod in the HOF and put anyone from this era in as long as there are 103 names unreleased. Either release all their names and judge them accordingly or don't single A-Rod out cause his name is one of the 104 that came out. I'd love it if Griffey's name was on there. Jeter too but I think he only juiced in '99 before signing the big contract.

Well I hope they release the other 103 names... but I dont think there is anyway he gets into the hall now. Clemens, Bonds, McGuire (sp) etc... now A-hole joins the list.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Well I hope they release the other 103 names... but I dont think there is anyway he gets into the hall now. Clemens, Bonds, McGuire (sp) etc... now A-hole joins the list.

All four will get in eventually, might take a long time though. Guys like Palmeiro and Tejada are the ones that might never get in but eventually the HOF is going to want their superstars in the HOF, especially when the biggest transgression those superstars had was to use something that wasn't even banned when they were linked to it.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

All four will get in eventually, might take a long time though. Guys like Palmeiro and Tejada are the ones that might never get in but eventually the HOF is going to want their superstars in the HOF, especially when the biggest transgression those superstars had was to use something that wasn't even banned when they were linked to it.

I dunno, I don't think McGwire gets in. People are still bitter about him breaking Maris' record and his buffoonery on the hill. I think the other three will get in though, and if you think this keeps A-Rod out of the HOF you're kidding yourself.

[SniperSB23]

I just think it's all stupid. Judge them on their numbers since there was no testing at the time and move on. I mean, Rickey Henderson just got in with no questions asked. The same Rickey Henderson that hit .241 at 37, .248 at 38, and .236 at 39 before moving to the Mets, whose entire clubhouse at the time was apparently dealing steroids, at which point he hits .315 as a 40 year old. I have no clue if he was using or not but would it really shock anyone? And if so, cause the guy tried to lengthen his career should that really tarnish everything he accomplished up until then?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I just think it's all stupid. Judge them on their numbers since there was no testing at the time and move on. I mean, Rickey Henderson just got in with no questions asked. The same Rickey Henderson that hit .241 at 37, .248 at 38, and .236 at 39 before moving to the Mets, whose entire clubhouse at the time was apparently dealing steroids, at which point he hits .315 as a 40 year old. I have no clue if he was using or not but would it really shock anyone? And if so, cause the guy tried to lengthen his career should that really tarnish everything he accomplished up until then?

I'd say one year of fishy batting average is a little different than a guy obliterating the celebrated single-season home run record while looking like a freaking veiny blimp.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I'd say one year of fishy batting average is a little different than a guy obliterating the celebrated single-season home run record while looking like a freaking veiny blimp.

McGwire publicly admitted to using Andro during the home run chase and noone cared! Now he's the antichrist for using it.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I just think it's all stupid. Judge them on their numbers since there was no testing at the time and move on.

I agree with this the most. I'm sick of hearing about steroids in baseball. They didn't test even though MLB knew what what was going on. Steroids are just a huge part of this era of the sport. They should just assume everybody was on them and just move forward and prevent future use. The home run #'s are inflated but the pitchers were juicing too. The press should just let it go.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by 3kings

They should just assume everybody was on them and just move forward and prevent future use. The home run #'s are inflated but the pitchers were juicing too. The press should just let it go.

Oh really? They were hitting 60-70 home runs, and you don't think pitchers(overall) were hurt professionally? They got their money. They got their awards etc. I'f they didn't perjure themself, then they will get away with it. Fine, but I think the price they need to pay is the Hall of Fame.