Is the current Pope a disgrace to the Cathloic Church

[Mike]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I can't watch it because I have a different media player and I could care less whether you admit your wrong or right. Damning a Pope and wishing him to hell was quite enough for me. Can't change ignorance or stupidity for that matter. I suspect you are very young or at least that is my hope.

I'm 46 years old, studied some religion in college with a southern Baptist gay minister(Harvard educated and excellent)


There's a good documentary film, it's on Comcast cable television On Demand as a free movie often, called Capturing the Friedmans. It's home footage taken by a teenage son of a married man with family who is accused of child molestation as a private piano tutor. The kids back up dad, but the wife goes against him early. Great film into what a pedophile may look like to the outside world

[Mike]

Dellinger, I'm sorry, but I have to run to the handicapping of what's left of Fairgrounds. I opened the card hours ago

I'll try not to shock in order to offend in the future

[Mike]

Dell, I was never sexually abused

My wife' s father was sexually abused by a priest if that matters, but I caught on to the holier-than-thou's long ago

Well it looks like he was unable to rehabilitate
the "Bishop" that believes the holocaust never happened.

This Pope has done an absolutely horrible PR job.
I am supposed to be Catholic, confirmed and all.
Went to a Catholic school K - 2nd. Was never abused.
Nuns slapped me with rulers, hurt some.

This Pope has John Paul turning cartwheels in heaven.
And not for fun. Rat man needs to come out and
apologize for some of the Catholic look the other way
tactics during the Holocaust. Just like John Paul did.

And I do agree with Dellinger that there are quite a few
priests that do nothing but give and are very good people.
The ones I have known. Ahh there was one really bad one,
but he liked the girls.

[hi_im_god]

i wonder why anyone is shocked that an organization that limits it's officer corps to those that are male, doctrinaire, and swear off sex is attractive to closeted homosexuals.

you'd be hard pressed to create a circumstance more attractive to maladjusted gay men than a seminary.

and i'm not saying all priest's are gay.

i'm just saying they all attended seminary with more than one who was.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Well it looks like he was unable to rehabilitate
the "Bishop" that believes the holocaust never happened.

This Pope has done an absolutely horrible PR job.
I am supposed to be Catholic, confirmed and all.
Went to a Catholic school K - 2nd. Was never abused.
Nuns slapped me with rulers, hurt some.

This Pope has John Paul turning cartwheels in heaven.
And not for fun. Rat man needs to come out and
apologize for some of the Catholic look the other way
tactics during the Holocaust. Just like John Paul did.

And I do agree with Dellinger that there are quite a few
priests that do nothing but give and are very good people.
The ones I have known. Ahh there was one really bad one,
but he liked the girls.

John Paul was just as bad. Turned a blind eye to abuse. Happened under his watch.. its crazy to think he didnt know.

And I agree with Dell... most priests are great human beings. Only a small percentage are molesters. But the fact that those molesters were covered up by the Catholic church for so long and just moved to other churches is what was so wrong with John Paul.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

John Paul was just as bad. Turned a blind eye to abuse. Happened under his watch.. its crazy to think he didnt know.

And I agree with Dell... most priests are great human beings. Only a small percentage are molesters. But the fact that those molesters were covered up by the Catholic church for so long and just moved to other churches is what was so wrong with John Paul.

many of the dioceses in which these abuses happened have declared bankruptcy, rather than pay to the victim-and the catholic church is one of the richest companies in the world. the last time i read about it, they were the largest property owner in america.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

many of the dioceses in which these abuses happened have declared bankruptcy, rather than pay to the victim-and the catholic church is one of the richest companies in the world. the last time i read about it, they were the largest property owner in america.

This is untrue. Portland, Tuscon and San Diego have sought chapter 11 protection. This in no way rids themselves of the responsiblity of paying victims who bring lawsuts. Truth is the Catholic church has paid over a billion dollars to date. In addtion the Catholic church is not alone in the abuse which in no way minimizes what was done and what was covered up. Take for instance the Angelican church

IN a compensation deal condemned by child protection advocates as woefully inadequate, the Anglican Church has offered a total of $825,000 to 41 former residents of an orphanage who say they were sexually and physically abused by clergymen and staff at the church-run facility.

Church "a church of compassion"

The amounts offered to the Lismore residents range from $16,000 to $22,600, compared with $40,000 to $75,000 granted by the Catholic Church in 2002 to 16 former residents of Brisbane's Nazareth House who were subjected to a similar regime of abuse.

Mr Comben, a former Queensland cabinet minister who is now the registrar of Grafton diocese, said senior counsel had advised the church it was not liable for compensation.

"We have made that offer on the basis that the church is a church of compassion and wants to make a passable approach to people who had apparently been damaged in a place that had some sort of connections with some church people," he said.


http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...69-421,00.html

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

John Paul was just as bad. Turned a blind eye to abuse. Happened under his watch.. its crazy to think he didnt know.

And I agree with Dell... most priests are great human beings. Only a small percentage are molesters. But the fact that those molesters were covered up by the Catholic church for so long and just moved to other churches is what was so wrong with John Paul.

He did not turn a blind eye.
And he got a lot of the priests names out so that they could
be moved and then removed via the press.
And it would have happened under God's watch.
Not our god here, but the large God.