"Jockey"

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Danzig

for a better take on why many don't follow racing....a lot of people don't gamble-and they connect horse racing only to that, not as entertainment.

More like they connect the sports excessively high takeout to mean that the game is total suckerbait.

Impossible to beat - and not worth the time invested to learn.

22% of US adult males between the ages of 18-49 play fantasy sports. Most are hardcore nerds who are obsessed with numbers and stats. These types are more likely to gamble on poker than horse racing by a tremendously wide margin.

It's information based gambling just like with the stock market or fantasy sports .. and I think a lot of people understand that. What they might not understand is that the sport is not impossible to beat .. and you can make a living from beating it .. but it is tougher than hell .. and anyone talented/crazy enough to do it consistantly could probably make at least double doing something else.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

More like they connect the sports excessively high takeout to mean that the game is total suckerbait.

Impossible to beat - and not worth the time invested to learn.

22% of US adult males between the ages of 18-49 play fantasy sports. Most are hardcore nerds who are obsessed with numbers and stats. These types are more likely to gamble on poker than horse racing by a tremendously wide margin.

It's information based gambling just like with the stock market or fantasy sports .. and I think a lot of people understand that. What they might not understand is that the sport is not impossible to beat .. and you can make a living from beating it .. but it is tougher than hell .. and anyone talented/crazy enough to do it consistantly could probably make at least double doing something else.

they had a survey on espn that i partook in yesterday. one question was on gambling-i was shocked to see that a much larger % then i expected said that they never gambled. it was easily as high as those who say they play fantasy sports, but most opted for the free leagues.
personally, i prefer horse racing gambling FAR more than any thing else- i feel i have a better shot by reading the form, while many others seem to prefer the randomness of choosing the right slot machine or video poker machine to sit in front of, zombielike, and feed quarters into the slot. i went to a casino once, years ago, and hated it. of course i didn't try any card games-but i doubt i ever go back to see if i could play those.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i went to a casino once, years ago, and hated it. of course i didn't try any card games-but i doubt i ever go back to see if i could play those.

Casino gambling does nothing at all for me either. I guess craps is kinda fun if you're really drunk - know some people at the table - and aren't losing.

It would be fun to beat the casinos silly as a cheat ... I love watching the breaking vegas shows when they're on.

[-BT-]

let's stick to the show here people

what i learned this week:

mike smith looks like he's 65
chantel is hotter then i previously thought
kayla stra is fighting an uphill battle, and her agent kind skeeves me out
joe talamo is really only 18, and has a cool accent
aaron gryder ............
i had no clue go go was soo cocky
where did jeff mullins' mullet go?

i think its gonna be a goo show

-bt-

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by -BT-

let's stick to the show here people

what i learned this week:


chantel is hotter then i previously thought

-bt-

oh, so hot...

[letswastemoney]

Chantel isn't that hot.....

[letswastemoney]

Kayla Stra is ten times hotter

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by -BT-

joe talamo is really only 18, and has a cool accent

Given the recent hype for Christian Bale in all his f'ing glory, Joe should really look into parlaying this raised profile, his short stature, and his accent into a remake of Newsies. Arise and seize the day!

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

In the same way American Idol (whether you like it or not) takes unknowns and over the season makes raving fans for many of them, Jockeys in a small way can do similar. Will it produce new fans? Maybe, but I think it will move a small segment of the population, whether they be new or exisiting players, closer to the sport and not away.

Too bad the % of people watching the show was most likely very small. I wonder how many did see it and what the reaction was.

Nobody found this amusing in the context of jockeys being short? Ok, just me. Eh.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Casino gambling does nothing at all for me either. I guess craps is kinda fun if you're really drunk - know some people at the table - and aren't losing.

It would be fun to beat the casinos silly as a cheat ... I love watching the breaking vegas shows when they're on.

we've watched them a few times-amusing how bad some of the cheats are-and how brazen! guys just reaching into little old ladies cups when their backs are turned. it's unbelievable.

i talk up horse racing all the time-i'm determined to increase the # of visitors as much as possible.
as for betting-i enjoy the mental exercise of trying to find a winner, and i hope to get better at it.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Casino gambling does nothing at all for me either. I guess craps is kinda fun if you're really drunk - know some people at the table - and aren't losing.

It would be fun to beat the casinos silly as a cheat ... I love watching the breaking vegas shows when they're on.

It's much much easier to get a longterm edge at blackjack or video poker than at horseracing. No comparison. Granted, if you can beat horseracing it's way more interesting and way more pleasant. Casinos are not fond of good blackjack players, and they're not crazy about people who capitalize on weaknesses in their machine games, either. Expert cappers don't have to deal with casino hostility.

--Dunbar

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

It's much much easier to get a longterm edge at blackjack or video poker than at horseracing. No comparison. Granted, if you can beat horseracing it's way more interesting and way more pleasant. Casinos are not fond of good blackjack players, and they're not crazy about people who capitalize on weaknesses in their machine games, either. Expert cappers don't have to deal with casino hostility.

--Dunbar

i didn't care for the atmosphere at the casino either. lights, bells and whistles...just seemed mindless. you just sit there and hit buttons. not my thing at all.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Casino gambling does nothing at all for me either. I guess craps is kinda fun if you're really drunk - know some people at the table - and aren't losing.

It would be fun to beat the casinos silly as a cheat ... I love watching the breaking vegas shows when they're on.

In the long run, I'm ahead at the blackjack table compared to horse racing. The major difference is I don't find myself having fun at the blackjack table.
So, Drugs I agree with you 100%. I'd go to the racetrack before the Casino every single time.

I love DVR. It was commercial city. About 15 minutes of real content. I absolutely hate how these reality shows replay what happened before the break.

[Ogygian]

All in all the show wasn't bad...I do have to say the re-created race calls were very annoying. I would have much rather enjoyed the actual race call.

[XIIPointStables]

Not a terrible offering, but the recycled and replayed video was awful. It was just filler, filler, filler.

Either they thought the people watching would be morons and need to see this stuff over and over or it was poorly produced. I would say a little of both.

And oh yeah, the re-cut race calls from Trevor...ick. Hope he got paid for that.

[smuthg]

I really think that this show could make Zenyatta a "equine superstar"... words like "undefeated" seem to stick with the public.