Kentucky Derby Future Wager

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by justindew

The tote system will not accommodate that many individual betting interests.

Then they need a new tote company. In 2009 you cant write software to cover 700 horses? That is a joke.

[ninetoone]

I could have forgiven myself for having a future ticket on Monba...but betting on him on race day, now that was just unforgiveable.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Then they need a new tote company. In 2009 you cant write software to cover 700 horses? That is a joke.

Like everything else in this industry, it's a matter of dollars, risk, and job security.

Is it possible to allow for 700+ betting interests? Of course, just not with the current software and hardware. Upgrading software and hardware would cost money, and as the bet is handled now, it does not generate enough money to justify the expense.

Obviously if the tote system was upgraded, the bet would draw more dollars. But as I have said before and as everyone knows, NO ONE MAKES CHANGES IN THIS INDUSTRY UNLESS THEY HAVE UNDENIABLE PROOF THAT THE CHANGE WON'T RESULT IN A TEMPORARY PROFIT LOSS WHICH WOULD RESULT IN THEM LOSING THEIR JOB.

And so, we are stuck with 24 betting interests...unless they implement my plan or one of the others.

[ninetoone]

How much could it possibly cost? Isn't it 2009?

[MISTERGEE]

if youve seen the tote machines at crc you would know they seem to have been designed by cavemen. there are bets you are either unable to make at all that are available at other tracks or the way you must punch in the plays are ridiculous

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE

if youve seen the tote machines at crc you would know they seem to have been designed by cavemen. there are bets you are either unable to make at all that are available at other tracks or the way you must punch in the plays are ridiculous

Have you gotten the AM Tote machines yet, if not you are supposed to be next. The new tote machines here at FG and Arlington are what CDI is moving to, I was talking with the guy in charge of them last week at the track. But anyway, we can use our twinspires.com cards here in the tote machines, Arlington will be able to also supposedly this summer, and I think Calder is the next one they are going to. He said CDI wanted it all tried out at the other tracks before they put them in Kentucky.

As far as this having anything to do with future wagers, I don't know but when I see him again I will ask him if it can accomodate the large nimbers, if I can stand him being in my face and violating my 3 ft of personal space, he is a strange dude...

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by FGFan

Have you gotten the AM Tote machines yet, if not you are supposed to be next. The new tote machines here at FG and Arlington are what CDI is moving to, I was talking with the guy in charge of them last week at the track. But anyway, we can use our twinspires.com cards here in the tote machines, Arlington will be able to also supposedly this summer, and I think Calder is the next one they are going to. He said CDI wanted it all tried out at the other tracks before they put them in Kentucky.

As far as this having anything to do with future wagers, I don't know but when I see him again I will ask him if it can accomodate the large nimbers, if I can stand him being in my face and violating my 3 ft of personal space, he is a strange dude...

That started last summer at AP too. Basically acts as a debit card that you can load and wager as normal, but much quicker. If you want printed tickets as receipts, that is an option as well.

[FGFan]

Originally Posted by GBBob

That started last summer at AP too. Basically acts as a debit card that you can load and wager as normal, but much quicker. If you want printed tickets as receipts, that is an option as well.

Oh, he told me AP couldn't use them yet, told you he was a strange dude.

We've always had the "debit" cards here with FGNetBet so didn't even think about not being able to use TS cards. I like the machines, much better than scientific games before.

[MISTERGEE]

Originally Posted by FGFan

Have you gotten the AM Tote machines yet, if not you are supposed to be next. The new tote machines here at FG and Arlington are what CDI is moving to, I was talking with the guy in charge of them last week at the track. But anyway, we can use our twinspires.com cards here in the tote machines, Arlington will be able to also supposedly this summer, and I think Calder is the next one they are going to. He said CDI wanted it all tried out at the other tracks before they put them in Kentucky.

As far as this having anything to do with future wagers, I don't know but when I see him again I will ask him if it can accomodate the large nimbers, if I can stand him being in my face and violating my 3 ft of personal space, he is a strange dude...

thanks for the info, hope they get here soon

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by justindew

Like everything else in this industry, it's a matter of dollars, risk, and job security.

Is it possible to allow for 700+ betting interests? Of course, just not with the current software and hardware. Upgrading software and hardware would cost money, and as the bet is handled now, it does not generate enough money to justify the expense.

Obviously if the tote system was upgraded, the bet would draw more dollars. But as I have said before and as everyone knows, NO ONE MAKES CHANGES IN THIS INDUSTRY UNLESS THEY HAVE UNDENIABLE PROOF THAT THE CHANGE WON'T RESULT IN A TEMPORARY PROFIT LOSS WHICH WOULD RESULT IN THEM LOSING THEIR JOB.

And so, we are stuck with 24 betting interests...unless they implement my plan or one of the others.

There is only one certainty in this industry, if you an exec at CDI you wont be around long anyway