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Old 02-03-2009, 10:44 AM
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It is but I just don't know what Jump Start has to do with this. What race is he running in and do you really think he can beat Rail Trip?
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:03 PM
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It is but I just don't know what Jump Start has to do with this. What race is he running in and do you really think he can beat Rail Trip?

you are joking right??? Jump Start is Rail Trips' sire.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:05 PM
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you are joking right??? Jump Start is Rail Trips' sire.
Unless he's lining up in the gate to face him, I just don't see what Jump Start has to do with this. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:10 PM
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It is but I just don't know what Jump Start has to do with this. What race is he running in and do you really think he can beat Rail Trip?
It's like saying that I love Rhododendron even though she's been struggling because her dam, Mckinney, was my first favorite horse.

It's then like you asking me what Mckinney has to do with Rhododendron.

A lot, being the obvious answer.

Quite a bit, being the more subtle answer.

Even though Mckinney won't be racing against her any time soon.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:21 PM
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and while we're at it what does Jess Jackson have to do w/Curlin?
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:41 PM
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and while we're at it what does Jess Jackson have to do w/Curlin?
Nothing. They never ran against each other.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:51 PM
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Nothing. They never ran against each other.
Exactly. Jackson has nothing to do with Curlin's ability on the track. Just as Jump Start has nothing to do with Rail Trip's ability on the track. Just like awards shouldn't be voted on based on who a horse's owner is. On track is all that needs to be judged. Everything else is irrelevant.
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Exactly. Jackson has nothing to do with Curlin's ability on the track. Just as Jump Start has nothing to do with Rail Trip's ability on the track. Just like awards shouldn't be voted on based on who a horse's owner is. On track is all that needs to be judged. Everything else is irrelevant.
Though Betsy's terribly obvious original point is still relevant, even through this pomp.

Betsy liked Jump Start. Jump Start is the sire of Rail Trip. Therefore, Betsy would like to see Rail Trip do well.

I don't see what's so incredibly difficult to understand about this basic associative statement.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:57 PM
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Though Betsy's terribly obvious original point is still relevant, even through this pomp.

Betsy liked Jump Start. Jump Start is the sire of Rail Trip. Therefore, Betsy would like to see Rail Trip do well.

I don't see what's so incredibly difficult to understand about this basic associative statement.
Just as I don't see what's so incredibly difficult to understand what I was doing. Either way, it's not important.
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Exactly. Jackson has nothing to do with Curlin's ability on the track. Just as Jump Start has nothing to do with Rail Trip's ability on the track. Just like awards shouldn't be voted on based on who a horse's owner is. On track is all that needs to be judged. Everything else is irrelevant.

LOL. Breeding doesnt matter in the horse business now??? OMG king!

People should take their mares to stallions worth $500, instead of ones worth $300,000, because it obviously means nothing in terms of performance.
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LOL. Breeding doesnt matter in the horse business now??? OMG king!

People should take their mares to stallions worth $500, instead of ones worth $300,000, because it obviously means nothing in terms of performance.
They thought so much of Rail Trip's potential as a stallion with his breeding.........that they gelded him. Enough said.
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Exactly. Jackson has nothing to do with Curlin's ability on the track. Just as Jump Start has nothing to do with Rail Trip's ability on the track. Just like awards shouldn't be voted on based on who a horse's owner is. On track is all that needs to be judged. Everything else is irrelevant.
Then all those catalogs with sire and dam info meaningless. They should just publish the race record and horses that competed against said sire and dam. Pedigreequery be damned.
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Old 02-03-2009, 02:07 PM
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Then all those catalogs with sire and dam info meaningless. They should just publish the race record and horses that competed against said sire and dam. Pedigreequery be damned.
How many top racing females become top producers? How does that compare with how many unraced or very lightly raced and unaccomplished ones do the same thing?
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