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Old 02-02-2009, 07:07 PM
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TFM ("the fat man") brought up a point the other day when I cited BTW's (blackthroatedwind) belief that the long-successful turnback angle is blunted when tried in grass sprints.
Maybe it's because they go so slow in some of the turf routes. They only run hard the last part. Seems like in the main track races they are actually working for most of the race. Does the turnback angle work better if they are going from dirt route to turf sprint?
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:12 PM
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I think Nick Hines was a guy who gave quite detailed instructions, and the jocks had a dartboard in the jock's room with his photo on it.
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I think Nick Hines was a guy who gave quite detailed instructions, and the jocks had a dartboard in the jock's room with his photo on it.
They were afraid he would eat them after the race
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Old 02-02-2009, 07:24 PM
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A few things that are important when looking at a horse cutting back from a turf route to sprint are 1) an accurate set of pars, 2) is the horse bred to excell in sprints?, 3) if only 1-3 turf races, is it bred for the grass? 4) Does the horse have thr "right" running style for the track?

I'm sure there are others, but I think these cover the situation pretty well.
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Maybe it's because they go so slow in some of the turf routes. They only run hard the last part. Seems like in the main track races they are actually working for most of the race. Does the turnback angle work better if they are going from dirt route to turf sprint?
I actually like the opposite, going from turf route to dirt sprint.
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I think the jockey angle on this issue is a good thing to ask Tony Black about.
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:15 AM
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I think the jockey angle on this issue is a good thing to ask Tony Black about.
Joey.. I'll bring it up with Tony this week. He's certainly ridden in a bunch considering his Mid-Atlantic career base where they've run them as a major portion of their cards for a long time...
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Old 02-03-2009, 07:17 AM
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Am going to start a Turf Sprint Handicapping thread (or series). Will pick Turf Sprints where PP's are available. Less of a contest and more of an ongoing discussion opportunity.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27625
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