NFL Weekend Playoffs Thread

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Okay, Okay....just for full disclosure Smooth. Did you go to USC?

think about this question for a second Dala.... you have to be very smart to get into USC.... what do you think?

[Smooth Operator]

A full decade now of the Fat Andy and Don show in Philly ... and still no ring in sight.


Ya don't have to be a genius to figure this out, declansharbor. Heck, even Anti-thirst32 should have this one figured out by now.



But, just for fun, let's consult a genius anyway:



Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. -- Albert Einstein

[Antitrust32]

your preaching to the choir Mr. Booth. Don is talented but cant take us to the promise land. Big Red cant either.



Off topic - isnt choir a weird word when you write it? Should be like quier or something.

[gales0678]

funny Tom Coughlin and the Eli would be getting killed last week if not for winning the ring last year

There would be a good chance Tom would no longer be coaching the Giants if Tyree didn't make that catch

Reid is a better coach than Coughlin - there is no question in my mind about that

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

funny Tom Coughlin and the Eli would be getting killed last week if not for winning the ring last year

There would be a good chance Tom would no longer be coaching the Giants if Tyree didn't make that catch

Reid is a better coach than Coughlin - there is no question in my mind about that

Coughlin probably secured his job with the win at Dallas. And say what you want about Eli. He did suck against the birds, but when they needed him against the Pats he came through. It might have been a flukey play, but he still avoided the sack and made the pass.

Maybe Reid is or maybe he isn't a better coach, but there is no denying that Coughlin is the one with the hardware.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Coughlin probably secured his job with the win at Dallas. And say what you want about Eli. He did suck against the birds, but when they needed him against the Pats he came through. It might have been a flukey play, but he still avoided the sack and made the pass.

Maybe Reid is or maybe he isn't a better coach, but there is no denying that Coughlin is the one with the hardware.

say they lost to the pats , after stinking it up against the Eagles my bet would have been Coughlin gone , now giants and their fans are stuck with him for 3 more yrs

he was horrible against philly now twice in the playoffs and horrible against carolina in the playoffs

Eli Manning has yet to win a playoff game at home - he is 0-2 , both years they had better teams than the teams they lost too

Manning has looked horrible in the meadowlands in Jan , not a lot of qb's do well there in the swirling winds and now he is going to get 100mm plus

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by gales0678

say they lost to the pats , after stinking it up against the Eagles my bet would have been Coughlin gone

Interesting. Especially with the threat of Spags leaving them.

So what your saying is that TC can thank Asante Samuel and David Tyree for his job.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

say they lost to the pats , after stinking it up against the Eagles my bet would have been Coughlin gone

I disagree. He would have still got the extention after the Super Bowl. Granted it wouldn't have been pretty around here. And he would have been on the hot seat going into next season. But to fire him in a season where they started 11-1, with losing their 2 best pass rushers before the season and then the whole Plax situation is a bit unfair. The Mara's are usually a pretty classy/loyal group and wouldn't have dumped Coughlin just to bring in Spags (if that's what you were thinking) or anyone else.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by gales0678

say they lost to the pats , after stinking it up against the Eagles my bet would have been Coughlin gone , now giants and their fans are stuck with him for 3 more yrs

he was horrible against philly now twice in the playoffs and horrible against carolina in the playoffs

Eli Manning has yet to win a playoff game at home - he is 0-2 , both years they had better teams than the teams they lost too

Manning has looked horrible in the meadowlands in Jan , not a lot of qb's do well there in the swirling winds and now he is going to get 100mm plus

I'm not saying that you are that far off base, but winning cures everything. You can come up with whatever scenario you want, but you can never take away the 2007-08 championship.

Eli hasn't been good at home, all you can do is hope he gets better. The reciever situation will be addressed and more importantly the line stays intact. I am expecting big things again from them next year.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

A full decade now of the Fat Andy and Don show in Philly ... and still no ring in sight.

Ya don't have to be a genius to figure this out, declansharbor. Heck, even Anti-thirst32 should have this one figured out by now.



But, just for fun, let's consult a genius anyway:



Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. -- Albert Einstein

5 NFC championships and 1 SB loss is no ring in sight??? I'd guess that 95% of the league wishes they were this 'successful'. We'll get to the next level, and when we do, your not allowed to celebrate.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

5 NFC championships and 1 SB loss is no ring in sight??? I'd guess that 95% of the league wishes they were this 'successful'. We'll get to the next level, and when we do, your not allowed to celebrate.

come on declan... we're philly.. we have to have those types of views, its in our blood.

You trying to say that if and when we win, all those philly fans who were down on reid or mcnabb cant celebrate??? You'd be celebrating alone big guy!!

(Gosh I sure hope we win someday)

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

come on declan... we're philly.. we have to have those types of views, its in our blood.

You trying to say that if and when we win, all those philly fans who were down on reid or mcnabb cant celebrate??? You'd be celebrating alone big guy!!

(Gosh I sure hope we win someday)

I know, I know. Thats why Im having my own parade. My stark naked run down Cottman Ave accompanied by a big blow up menu to Geno's Steaks. (my salute to Big Red)

My timer is already set to the draft. Can't wait for NFL Network to start showing the combine. I could just scream right now.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

I know, I know. Thats why Im having my own parade. My stark naked run down Cottman Ave accompanied by a big blow up menu to Geno's Steaks. (my salute to Big Red)

My timer is already set to the draft. Can't wait for NFL Network to start showing the combine. I could just scream right now.

OMG, he's getting delusional. Quick someone has to get over to his house and either put on the Phillies championship DVD or the Fashion channel ASAP!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

OMG, he's getting delusional. Quick someone has to get over to his house and either put on the Phillies championship DVD or the Fashion channel ASAP!

best DVD evah!

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

I know, I know. Thats why Im having my own parade. My stark naked run down Cottman Ave accompanied by a big blow up menu to Geno's Steaks. (my salute to Big Red)

My timer is already set to the draft. Can't wait for NFL Network to start showing the combine. I could just scream right now.

I failed to mention that I might need someone to carry my walker behind me.

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

5 NFC championships and 1 SB loss is no ring in sight??? I'd guess that 95% of the league wishes they were this 'successful'. We'll get to the next level, and when we do, your not allowed to celebrate.

Ah, so close and yet so far, declansharbor



By the way, how many bad draft selections do ya think Fat Andy will make this year? They have a couple first-rounders if I'm not mistaken.


Surely there's another Freddie Mitchell ... or Jerome McDougle ... or Todd Pinkston ... or Barry Gardner out there piquing his interest.............

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Ah, so close and yet so far, declansharbor



By the way, how many bad draft selections do ya think Fat Andy will make this year? They have a couple first-rounders if I'm not mistaken.


Surely there's another Freddie Mitchell ... or Jerome McDougle ... or Todd Pinkston ... or Barry Gardner out there piquing his interest.............

Show me a coach with a draft success rate of 100% and I'll show your inner bunghole my shoelaces.

Quick to get on him about those draftees, huh? Lets look at the diamonds in the rough. Trent Cole (5th round I believe), BRIAN WESTBROOK (3RD ROUND), Stewart Bradley (3rd round), Gocong (when noone seen him going that high and transitioning to LB), what might be the best DT tandem in the league in Broderick Bunkley and Mike Patterson. Victor Abiamiri (who will be a STUD). Picked up Sheldon and Lito in teh same draft as 36. Brent Clek (5th round, and will be a solid safety valve for years to come). He didnt draft him, but had teh brain to bring in future PRO BOWLER Quinten Mikell after the draft. Lest we forget, choosing Don over Ricky "Greenleaf" Williams who every idiot with a voicebox was clamoring for...

It's quite clear the hard-on you have for Big Red. I used to live with someone just like you, my dad. The two of you are as clueless as they come. Who's your brainiac pick to bring in and make us a contender year in and year out??? My dad's was Gruden. Yes, the same Gruden that is unemployed. I'm eager to see who your replacement is.

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Show me a coach with a draft success rate of 100% and I'll show your inner bunghole my shoelaces.

Quick to get on him about those draftees, huh? Lets look at the diamonds in the rough. Trent Cole (5th round I believe), BRIAN WESTBROOK (3RD ROUND), Stewart Bradley (3rd round), Gocong (when noone seen him going that high and transitioning to LB), what might be the best DT tandem in the league in Broderick Bunkley and Mike Patterson. Victor Abiamiri (who will be a STUD). Picked up Sheldon and Lito in teh same draft as 36. Brent Clek (5th round, and will be a solid safety valve for years to come). He didnt draft him, but had teh brain to bring in future PRO BOWLER Quinten Mikell after the draft. Lest we forget, choosing Don over Ricky "Greenleaf" Williams who every idiot with a voicebox was clamoring for...

It's quite clear the hard-on you have for Big Red. I used to live with someone just like you, my dad. The two of you are as clueless as they come. Who's your brainiac pick to bring in and make us a contender year in and year out??? My dad's was Gruden. Yes, the same Gruden that is unemployed. I'm eager to see who your replacement is.

My "inner bunghole" ... lol


Go ahead and list all of Andy's moves since he's had complete control over personnel, declansharbor. It'll still adds up to a big fat ZERO ... as in Super Bowl rings.

Apparently you are content with the team being a "contender year in and year out". That is a LOSER mentality.

Andy has CLEARLY shown that he cannot assemble a CHAMPIONSHIP-caliber football team. At the very least, he should be stripped of some of his power over personnel decisions.



And Chucky may not be the greatest head football coach in the world, but he does own a very valuable piece of jewelry. Can't say the same about Andy despite his having total control of everything in Philly for a looooooooooong time now...

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

My "inner bunghole" ... lol


Go ahead and list all of Andy's moves since he's had complete control over personnel, declansharbor. It'll still adds up to a big fat ZERO ... as in Super Bowl rings.

Apparently you are content with the team being a "contender year in and year out". That is a LOSER mentality.

Andy has CLEARLY shown that he cannot assemble a CHAMPIONSHIP-caliber football team. At the very least, he should be stripped of some of his power over personnel decisions.



And Chucky may not be the greatest head football coach in the world, but he does own a very valuable piece of jewelry. Can't say the same about Andy despite his having total control of everything in Philly for a looooooooooong time now...

Chucky should have to melt down that ring and give half of it to Dungy. If Chucky had inherited the team that Andy did, he would have been fired after 3 years, ringless as well. If there is such a thing, these are opinionated FACTS.