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Old 01-19-2009, 08:27 PM
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* Stem Cell research at further levels[/B
- Private sector doesn't believe in it DISAGREE
The "private sector" not only wants better cures for cancer, ruptured ACL's, etc., the private sector is the primary scientific researcher here.
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The "private sector" not only wants better cures for cancer, ruptured ACL's, etc., the private sector is the primary scientific researcher here.

not the same
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Old 01-19-2009, 08:57 PM
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not the same
The private sector I associate with wants it.
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The private sector I associate with wants it.
the government has not banned embryonic stem cell research they just haven't paid for it.

I thought hte private sector didn't belive in that particular kind of stem cell research.

either way I don't think the government should pay for it
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Why not?
the mother of invention is necessity

I'm not convinced that stem cell reseach is necessary. It isn't illegal just not funded by the government. I would like to draw the line somewhere

I don't believe the government should be anything more than - (off the top of my head)

national defense
weights and measures
and roads
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You don't think stem cell research is necessary? I think you might want to learn a bit about it, your opinion might change.

The Bush administration was very wrong with their views on stem cell research... IMO

I wonder what kind of advancements there would be right now had they not banned federal funding for it.

Its unreal what stem cells do for the equine industry right now. We see stem cells often being used by vets in our claim notes..
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Old 01-21-2009, 09:33 PM
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You don't think stem cell research is necessary? I think you might want to learn a bit about it, your opinion might change.

I don't think embryonic stem cell research is necessary.

The reason I want to argue that sexual preference is not genetic is....

I am pro-life and if people can determine that their baby is going to be gay or something they may "choose" to kill "it"
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Old 01-21-2009, 11:23 PM
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I don't think embryonic stem cell research is necessary.

The reason I want to argue that sexual preference is not genetic is....

I am pro-life and if people can determine that their baby is going to be gay or something they may "choose" to kill "it"
Nobody mentioned embryonic stem cell research. We were discussing stem cell research. Why don't you think it's "necessary" ? (or you think stem cell is okay, but embryonic stem cell is not?) Obviously you must know the great promise stem cell research holds for human (and animal) health? And you don't think that is "necessary" ???

BTW - Sexual preference being genetic or not has nothing at all to do with anybody's opinion on abortion. One can argue abortion any way they wish, but won't remotely affect whether sexual preference is genetic or not.
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I am pro-life and if people can determine that their baby is going to be gay or something they may "choose" to kill "it"
Now people can choose to "kill" their babies if they are going to have sickle cell anemia or cystic fibrosis. Where is the line drawn?

What about people who purposely fertilize eggs via in-vitro fertilization, then store them, then decide they don't want to implant them, so those fertilized eggs are just thrown away?

BTW, Bush says it's okay to throw these discarded fertilized eggs away, but not okay to use those discarded fertilized eggs for embryonic stem cell research.

Three situations, all involve the same thing (fertilized multi-celled but undifferentiated eggs) why should they be viewed differently?

These are not easy questions.
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I have a question for the ignorant bigot. What exactly have gays done to deserve to be killed? I mean there's hate and then there's thinking people should be dead for their sexual preference. Kind of sad that someone thinks like that in 2009.
It would be nice to one day live in a world (or at least a country) where everyone could get along, and people could look past differences and love each other for who you are!
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Excellent piece by, yes, Cal Thomas

http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?news=2489
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Excellent piece by, yes, Cal Thomas

http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?news=2489
It was good, especially this part;

"Here’s another suggestion: focus less on ideology and more on how people can become independent of government. For too long, your party has emphasized misery, failure and government dependency instead of success, fulfillment and self-sufficiency. By spotlighting people who move from dependence to independence, you model and encourage achievement".
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It was good, especially this part;

"Here’s another suggestion: focus less on ideology and more on how people can become independent of government. For too long, your party has emphasized misery, failure and government dependency instead of success, fulfillment and self-sufficiency. By spotlighting people who move from dependence to independence, you model and encourage achievement".
That's an opinion he had to include so it wouldn't be published in next month's Rolling Stone
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Excellent piece by, yes, Cal Thomas

http://www.calthomas.com/index.php?news=2489
I totally agree. very well written, especially the last paragraph.

"Good luck, God bless and I hope you succeed in the things with which conservatives can agree. And on those things we cannot agree, I at least promise to be more than a naysayer and suggest how they might be done better."
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:10 AM
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Watching the Inauguration on TV...and saw Walter Mondale!!!! Didn't realize he was still alive. Thought he was about 102 by now.
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they are dancing in kenya . imagine that scene . thankfully michelle o did not dress like erika badu http://www.mimifroufrou.com/scenteds...rykah_Badu.jpg
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