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Old 01-12-2009, 02:18 PM
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i don't get it - the campain pledge was to end the bush tax cuts for the wealthy , not let them wait to expire after his first 2 yrs in office

why can't the top rate on income move uo from 35% to 39% retoactive 1/1/09?
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:23 PM
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i don't get it - the campain pledge was to end the bush tax cuts for the wealthy , not let them wait to expire after his first 2 yrs in office

why can't the top rate on income move uo from 35% to 39% retoactive 1/1/09?
Maybe because things are so bad that 4% of someone's $1 Million per year AGI might be better in the market place that with the IRS.
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:25 PM
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do pelosi and reid agree with this? i thought they wanted the rate moved up on the top right away and not wait for 2 yrs
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:32 PM
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do pelosi and reid agree with this? i thought they wanted the rate moved up on the top right away and not wait for 2 yrs
Probably not, but the way things are now, all bets are off.

As an aside, I think being flexible..aka..changing your mind based on circumstances is a positive. Some call it flip-flopping, but in principal he still believes in the tax hike.
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:43 PM
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Probably not, but the way things are now, all bets are off.

As an aside, I think being flexible..aka..changing your mind based on circumstances is a positive. Some call it flip-flopping, but in principal he still believes in the tax hike.

but how much worse has it gotten since the election all of 2008 was bad , home prices began to decline in 2007 , top ex's are still taking home million dollar pay packages

heck cc sabathaia and a-rod can't pay 4% points a year higher

even bill clinton said he should be paying more in his personal income taxes
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:45 PM
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but how much worse has it gotten since the election all of 2008 was bad , home prices began to decline in 2007 , top ex's are still taking home million dollar pay packages

heck cc sabathaia and a-rod can't pay 4% points a year higher

even bill clinton said he should be paying more in his personal income taxes
Honestly?? I don't know Marty..Just throwing around ideas
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Old 01-12-2009, 03:06 PM
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Probably not, but the way things are now, all bets are off.

As an aside, I think being flexible..aka..changing your mind based on circumstances is a positive. Some call it flip-flopping, but in principal he still believes in the tax hike.

anyone critical of obama for being a realist needs to recall that george bush was incredibly inflexible-his way or no way. look where that has gotten us.

oh, wait...can't blame him for it, he was only doing what god told him to.
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anyone critical of obama for being a realist needs to recall that george bush was incredibly inflexible-his way or no way. look where that has gotten us.

oh, wait...can't blame him for it, he was only doing what god told him to.


George Bush was a Democrat in my eyes

and all of our problems are because he failed to change Clinton policy


Obama is a realist? Not my reality
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George Bush was a Democrat in my eyes

and all of our problems are because he failed to change Clinton policy


Obama is a realist? Not my reality
i meant that regarding him wanting the economy to be the first priority, and that his other stuff will have to wait. he also recognizes that our federal govt cannot walk and chew gum at the same time, so he can't expect them to tackle more than one issue at a time.

how the hell did we become the lone superpower?!
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Yeah but in your reality there were WMD's in Iraq.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...yellowcake.htm


and in my reality
giving aid and comfort to the enemy in a time of war is treason
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:26 PM
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i don't get it - the campain pledge was to end the bush tax cuts for the wealthy , not let them wait to expire after his first 2 yrs in office

why can't the top rate on income move uo from 35% to 39% retoactive 1/1/09?
IMO Because Obama has to take care of his true and supportive friends like Penny Pritzker. 4% of a couple billion is real $$$$.
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:29 PM
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true , she was also on the BOD of wrigley for a number of years the family must have made a score when Billy Boy sold out to Mars last year

that deal went through at the favorable 15 % cap gains tax rate
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:33 PM
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and she's in line to be commerce secretary. She's real green too. Flies in and out of her Lake Geneva WI home on a private 9 seat helicopter. Not sure if it runs on bio fuel or solar energy. Can't be the later because sometimes she flies over at night. mmmmm Remember her and family being involved in a savings and loan or bank fiasco. I'll look into that later.
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and she's in line to be commerce secretary. She's real green too. Flies in and out of her Lake Geneva WI home on a private 9 seat helicopter. Not sure if it runs on bio fuel or solar energy. Can't be the later because sometimes she flies over at night. mmmmm Remember her and family being involved in a savings and loan or bank fiasco. I'll look into that later.
I thought she already passed on that?
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Old 01-12-2009, 02:50 PM
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I thought she already passed on that?
You are correct. Good thing for Obama too with her family's bank history. Goody more late night fly-overs.
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