Israel pounds Gaza

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

Oh yes. Let me guess, you wanted to send people like my brother to go fight in crazy African countries, but I am going to guess you never joined the military to go help.

Give me a break. All that happens when you help these crazy people is good american men and women who serve their country get killed for nothing.

Darfur is not an American problem. It is an African problem.

Please explain to me what America is supposed to do. I love all you people with all the ideas but with no solutions.

so glad you pay attention. my husband and i are both navy veterans, and my son is currently a sailor-he just re-enlisted. my other son is also probably going in-he wants to get an appointment to the naval academy. what branch of the military are/were you in?

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by Danzig

so glad you pay attention. my husband and i are both navy veterans, and my son is currently a sailor-he just re-enlisted. my other son is also probably going in-he wants to get an appointment to the naval academy. what branch of the military are/were you in?

Great. He can stay on his little ship while my brother fights the wars. My brother is technically part of the navy too, but he is part of the navy that fights the wars, they are called Marines.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

Great. He can stay on his little ship while my brother fights the wars. My brother is technically part of the navy too, but he is part of the navy that fights the wars, they are called Marines.

i appreciate your belittling of our service, sorry it doesn't fit your ideals. again, which branch are YOU in? and let your brother know i appreciate his service-i really do. i have a lot of respect for all our guys and gals in uniform. not very much for those who cheerlead from the sidelines, as tho being a relative of someone who is doing something means a damn thing.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

Great. He can stay on his little ship while my brother fights the wars. My brother is technically part of the navy too, but he is part of the navy that fights the wars, they are called Marines.

Yeah tell that to the guys on the Uss Cole. If you aren't drunk you should probably kill yourself.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah tell that to the guys on the Uss Cole. If you aren't drunk you should probably kill yourself.

tony and i were in mayport when the stark came in-not sure how many here remember that. our commander in chief, reagan, came down for the memorial service. chilling seeing that ship. it's a wonder we didn't lose more sailors on that ship than we did. not that it matters apparently-i guess navy sailors are a dime a dozen.

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah tell that to the guys on the Uss Cole. If you aren't drunk you should probably kill yourself.

They were killed by a terrorist bomber, not in some war. Marines were killed in Lebanon by terrorists too. There is nothing you can do about it. But you can keep them from dying in pointless wars.

Everyone loves to say we should fight this war or our military should be protecting people in Africa, but for some reason they don't like to sign up and fight them. Leave that to the guys in the military.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

They were killed by a terrorist bomber, not in some war. Marines were killed in Lebanon by terrorists too. There is nothing you can do about it. But you can keep them from dying in pointless wars.

Everyone loves to say we should fight this war or our military should be protecting people in Africa, but for some reason they don't like to sign up and fight them. Leave that to the guys in the military.

i disagree with your first part. also, you're arguing semantics when you brush aside how one group of soldiers died, while saying only deaths on a true battlefield count. they all died while doing their duty.

again, when did you enlist? altho by now, with no answer, i figure you are not, and have never been, in the military. you'd have said so by now had you been. so, mr. judgemental, maybe you should take some of your bad advice and shut up about what the military should be doing.

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by Danzig

when did you enlist?

I am Army ROTC.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

I am Army ROTC.

oh, i see. so you're still in school right now?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

They were killed by a terrorist bomber, not in some war. Marines were killed in Lebanon by terrorists too. There is nothing you can do about it. But you can keep them from dying in pointless wars.

Everyone loves to say we should fight this war or our military should be protecting people in Africa, but for some reason they don't like to sign up and fight them. Leave that to the guys in the military.

Where exactly do terrorist come from? Those wacko countries. if they are killing our guys with us monitoring what d you think it would be like if we just let them do what they want?

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah tell that to the guys on the Uss Cole. If you aren't drunk you should probably kill yourself.

They were religious whackos on a dinghy. They don't matter. We shouldnt worry about them

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah tell that to the guys on the Uss Cole. If you aren't drunk you should probably kill yourself.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

Great. He can stay on his little ship while my brother fights the wars. My brother is technically part of the navy too, but he is part of the navy that fights the wars, they are called Marines.

LOL....You all thought I was nuts?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

LOL....You all thought I was nuts?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

LOL....You all thought I was nuts?

Early nom for 2009 post of the year

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

Great. He can stay on his little ship while my brother fights the wars. My brother is technically part of the navy too, but he is part of the navy that fights the wars, they are called Marines.

Well, QC, you wear your brothers courage to fight very well! Unfortunately, it's sagging a bit since you apparently aren't the man your brother is.
btw.....are you, like, 14yrs old or what?

[Bigsmc]

My head hurts.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

My head hurts.

I've done enough

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Well, QC, you wear your brothers courage to fight very well! Unfortunately, it's sagging a bit since you apparently aren't the man your brother is.
btw.....are you, like, 14yrs old or what?

don't forget, he is in rotc. oh, wait...i shouldn't criticize, having only been on a little ship in the navy-that counts for nothing...

[miraja2]

Okay, I'm going to take an unususal step here and actually defend Quiet Chris.....a little bit. I certainly don't agree with a lot of the stuff the guy has had to say in this thread, but I think the idea of isolationism has at least some merit, and I don't exactly understand why so many Americans today - particularly Conservatives - scoff at the idea. Does isolationism mean that the U.S. should have no state department, or defense department? Of course not, but in the decades after WWII the United States has generally operated under the assumption that "my enemy's enemy is always my friend," and that the U.S. is always best served by intervening. How has that worked out? While it could be argued either way, there are certainly a LOT of negatives that have come out of this approach for both Americans and people around the world. How much did the U.S. involvement in Guatemala, Turkey, Greece, Afghanistan, Cuba, Korea, Vietnam, etc really have to do with "winning" the war against "Communism", or helping any American citizens? By most accounts, not much. How many people - both U.S. soldiers and civilians of those countries - died from those actions? By all accounts, a lot.

Before they were taken over by the neo-cons, the Republican Party used to be (and people like Ron Paul still are) a bastion of isolationism. Is the basic idea that the U.S. should NOT be the policemen of the world that insane? I don't think so.
Personally I'm not an isolationist or an old-school conservative, but perhaps people that are those things simply deserve a better spokesperson than Quiet Chris. I do think strict isolationism is a reasonable foreign policy that makes cogent points which thoughtful and intelligent people could believe in.