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Old 01-04-2009, 11:59 PM
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what NFL team got in without a winning record? The Cardinals were 9-7. That is a winning record.. even if the cheating crybaby Patriots won more games. The Cardinals were not below .500


Yeah Utah played a bunch of soup cans
They wouldn't even be .500 if they were in the SEC
or Big Ten +1 for that matter


After watching how they easily handled Alabama, who was 1.000 in the SEC, I'd have to think that this statement is very wrong. They weren't a fluke team this year. I admittedly didn't think they were as good as their record and it's likely that playing an SEC schedule week in and week out might have given them a couple of losses but they were more than good enough to be a plus .500 team in the SEC and they likely would have WON the Big 10.
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Old 01-05-2009, 10:15 AM
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Hear is the one fact you need to remember: UTAH is UNDEFEATED no one else can say that! The bcs commissioners made them play alabama thinking they would get beat up. Wrong they beat up bama and made the bcs look foolish. Its a chump game, because you go undefeated you deserve to play in the championship game. I'm never calling it the championship game its the biggest joke their is in sports. Why is the winner of the chump game champ? When usc and texas (if they win) will have just as many loses and one of them even beat ou. Its time for these bcs commissioners to give up their money and have a playoff. The bowl systems is a joke and those games don't even sellout. You watch the chump game and think the winner is champ, its utah end of story! Hopefully soon end of this bcs garbage!
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Old 01-05-2009, 10:22 AM
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Hear is the one fact you need to remember: UTAH is UNDEFEATED no one else can say that! The bcs commissioners made them play alabama thinking they would get beat up. Wrong they beat up bama and made the bcs look foolish. Its a chump game, because you go undefeated you deserve to play in the championship game. I'm never calling it the championship game its the biggest joke their is in sports. Why is the winner of the chump game champ? When usc and texas (if they win) will have just as many loses and one of them even beat ou. Its time for these bcs commissioners to give up their money and have a playoff. The bowl systems is a joke and those games don't even sellout. You watch the chump game and think the winner is champ, its utah end of story! Hopefully soon end of this bcs garbage!

If the president elect says it's time for a playoff , and he can't influence the powers to be , then it will never change

Does anyone think Utah could win the AP vote out of curiosity?
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Old 01-05-2009, 10:48 AM
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If the president elect says it's time for a playoff , and he can't influence the powers to be , then it will never change

Does anyone think Utah could win the AP vote out of curiosity?
No. Too far down. No way they could win it if Florida and/or Texas wins their bowl games. If Oklahoma wins, I'd say that Utah has a better claim but still wouldn't get a sniff.
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Old 01-05-2009, 10:56 AM
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media wouldn't take a non big name school, unless their other options did something to really tick them off, which won't happen.
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Old 01-05-2009, 11:17 AM
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media wouldn't take a non big name school, unless their other options did something to really tick them off, which won't happen.
I actually think it's the other way around. I think the media is looking to give the non-BCS schools a shot. They did it with BYU in 1984. The media looks for the best story. Boise St. a couple of years ago was a nice one. Utah this year destroying Alabama, who until the SEC championship game was #1 in the country, is a nice one. The media has to love this. Nothing creates interest like controversy and Utah has created some big time controversy now. What better way to take advantage of the situation than by voting Utah #1 in the AP poll? It won't happen but I think that would be great.
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No. Too far down. No way they could win it if Florida and/or Texas wins their bowl games. If Oklahoma wins, I'd say that Utah has a better claim but still wouldn't get a sniff.
Oklahoma blows TCU away, and Utah is life and death to win at home against TCU. Yep Utah still has a chance.
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Old 01-05-2009, 06:00 PM
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Oklahoma blows TCU away, and Utah is life and death to win at home against TCU. Yep Utah still has a chance.
I'm failing to see how this addresses the question that was asked. As it stands, Utah will likely finish from 3-5 in the final polls. The winner of the Okl/Florida game will be #1. Texas will be #2. #3-5 will be between the title game loser, USC, and Utah. The question asked was does anyone thing Utah could win the AP vote? I don't think they can. The question was not whether Utah could compete with the top teams. I don't think they can. I never thought Alabama was a truly top team but there's no doubt that they were one of the elite teams in the SEC this year.
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Oklahoma blows TCU away, and Utah is life and death to win at home against TCU. Yep Utah still has a chance.
Mississippi beat FL but lost to Alabama who lost to Utah so Utah is better than FL?
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Old 01-05-2009, 07:34 PM
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Mississippi beat FL but lost to Alabama who lost to Utah so Utah is better than FL?
six degrees of tim tebow?
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