So how did you do in 2008? Winner/Loser?

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Please don't take offense, SD, but....I didn't get most of this....first off, Where do you bet P4/P6's without maiden racesincluded?Are you saying you never bet horizontally unless it is DD without maidens?
How do you eliminate any "about distance races" when virtually all turf courses move the rail (thus affecting distance slightly)after 7-10 racing days? How about when they are taken off and moderately adjusted for the distance? If you bet what you post, (and I am in no way insinuating you don't) you are far from a modest bettor.I agree that Place bets are probably the most successful way to go over the long haul for sure. Thanks for the insight - it's pretty cool to be able to track this and provide data that most of us don't bother with. I learned alot this year doing some of the same. Have a great New Year and look forward to your selections in '09

hey Elvis i just notice you are from florida, i.m in miami till friday got stuck here no load out till then however weather is great down here better than last week when i was home for Xmas

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

hey Elvis i just notice you are from florida, i.m in miami till friday got stuck here no load out till then however weather is great down here better than last week when i was home for Xmas

Just got back home from the 2200 mile trek visiting the relatives in VA and WV...I don't know how you guys do it.. Glad to be home... If you ever get to Tampa, PM Me or Bigs...get ya hooked up TBD style!

[sdjcom]

10-4 sounds good , my wife is from huntington wv and i bought my first home in st pete off of 4th st north in 1979. about 3 miles from gandy blvd and derby lane. i went to TBD when george owned it and haven't been back since, guess it's change alot. they still have that big flea mkt down the street from there?

[TheSpyder]

Twin Spires is great in being able to isolate bets and find where your strongest and weakest. The only two tracks I showed a profit at were Santa Anita and Tampa. Lost at all others. These are the numbers post-Saratoga when I opened the account:

All Bets %wins ROI $won/lost
309 19.42% +0.02 +32.50

Pick 3
19 21.05% +1.97 +481.00

W/P
87 28.74 -0.09 -40.70

exacta
86 12.79 -0.32 -202.70

win
62 17.74 -0.35 -98.90

What is interesting is I play exacta's a lot but is about my worst bet. I really thought I did well playing W/P and 28%+ is good but still lost money, but did better than playing just win bets by far. So, it looks like if I take the time to put wagers together, I'd be a lot better off playing pick 3's. It's a bit skewed as I hit one big one but still this information is telling me that's where I do the best.

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

Twin Spires is great in being able to isolate bets and find where your strongest and weakest. The only two tracks I showed a profit at were Santa Anita and Tampa. Lost at all others. These are the numbers post-Saratoga when I opened the account:

All Bets %wins ROI $won/lost
309 19.42% +0.02 +32.50

Pick 3
19 21.05% +1.97 +481.00

W/P
87 28.74 -0.09 -40.70

exacta
86 12.79 -0.32 -202.70

win
62 17.74 -0.35 -98.90

What is interesting is I play exacta's a lot but is about my worst bet. I really thought I did well playing W/P and 28%+ is good but still lost money, but did better than playing just win bets by far. So, it looks like if I take the time to put wagers together, I'd be a lot better off playing pick 3's. It's a bit skewed as I hit one big one but still this information is telling me that's where I do the best.

i agree it helps keep you focus on what your best bets are. i have to place my win and place bets separate or they will show up as win/place on same ticket category the first few months on TS i made this mistake. you got a handle on your wagering and that is the area that will make or break any bettor , good luck to you this year.

[brianwspencer]

This is the first year I KNOW I've made money. I didn't keep as good of track up until this year, but generally figured I'd lost based on my day-to-day.

This year was the best year I've ever had and credit most of it to being more involved at Arlington Park so I was seeing every race, every day, and going much further in depth handicapping races than I ever had before because I had to actually write about them for other people.

That helped immeasurably, and led to two really big pick-4 scores in July and on Million Day. Managed to cash at Keeneland as well, and found out that I'm much better off just spending my money on horizontal bets and getting knocked out than trying to play more races within them. I'd rather make two big bets per day if I like the sequence than make a bunch of smaller ones, and finally got the balls to go in heavier on horses straight in the win pool that I really like.

And then I got murdered to the tune of, well, a ****-ton of money on BC weekend at Santa Anita. I blame the Grey Goose, which is in effect essentially blaming Bob and Barney. And Raven's Pass.