Horse of the Year?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Stickhorse

Horse of the Year is an award for North American horses for North American efforts. Curlin people, you should know better, don't mention the Dubai World Cup. If you want to throw that race in the mix then you will lose your argument for sure. The stage widens and we have to consider Zarkava.
Her victory in the Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe (Fr-I) was over a better field than Curlin faced in his Dubai race. She, like Zenyatta, was undefeated but she, unlike Zenyatta, did beat the boys.

Horse of the Year should go to a “Z” horse. Zarkava or Zenyatta

This statement is absolutely, 100% incorrect. You can throw the Dubai World Cup into the mix because it's a race on the record of a horse that is eligible for the title. Zarkava never raced in North America so therefore she is ineligible and thus, her results aren't even to be considered.

[ateamstupid]

I'd give the slight nod to Curlin, but wouldn't be outraged if Zenyatta won.

[smuthg]

good article on DRF by Steve Davidowitz. http://www.drf.com/drfNewsArticle.do?NID=100680


I think Commentator's best two races were better than any other horse/race this year but his Clark flop destroys any case that could be made for him and Curlin looked like Michael Jordan in his Wizard's uniform this year, something just wasn't right... So if I had a vote I would go with Zenyatta.

I found it very interesting that Davidowitz went with Eight Belles in the 3YO filly divisions without much discussion. Does Goldikova get a look in this division?

[miraja2]

Nicanor or Hang Glide.

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Nicanor or Hang Glide.

Hopefully that will be in 2009

[sumitas]

I favor Pepper's Pride as HOY .

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by sumitas

I favor Pepper's Pride as HOY .

YES WE HAVE IT..THE FN CLAIMER WHO FACED NO BODY .NEVER VENTURED TO FACE BETTER GETS HORSE OF THE YEAR...HE MADE IT AROUND THE TRACK THATS IT..IF THATS THE DEAL THEN I THINK 'HANK' SHOULD WIN AT LEAST HE ESCORTED A FEW DERBY WINNERS TO THE GATE..

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

YES WE HAVE IT..THE FN CLAIMER WHO FACED NO BODY .NEVER VENTURED TO FACE BETTER GETS HORSE OF THE YEAR...HE MADE IT AROUND THE TRACK THATS IT..IF THATS THE DEAL THEN I THINK 'HANK' SHOULD WIN AT LEAST HE ESCORTED A FEW DERBY WINNERS TO THE GATE..

My 11 year old greyhound would keep up with Poopers Pride

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by smuthg

good article on DRF by Steve Davidowitz. http://www.drf.com/drfNewsArticle.do?NID=100680


I think Commentator's best two races were better than any other horse/race this year but his Clark flop destroys any case that could be made for him and Curlin looked like Michael Jordan in his Wizard's uniform this year, something just wasn't right... So if I had a vote I would go with Zenyatta.

I found it very interesting that Davidowitz went with Eight Belles in the 3YO filly divisions without much discussion. Does Goldikova get a look in this division?

I have no idea how Eight Belles would get his vote but even less understanding of how Commentator gets his vote for sprinter since he didnt win a sprint stakes this year. And while Assmussen getting the eclipse isnt exactly a feel good story I cant come up with Hollendorfer in that catagory either

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I have no idea how Eight Belles would get his vote but even less understanding of how Commentator gets his vote for sprinter since he didnt win a sprint stakes this year.

He won the Richter Scale at 7 furlongs by double digits at GP.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He won the Richter Scale at 7 furlongs by double digits at GP.

ok then he deserves it

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I have no idea how Eight Belles would get his vote

No idea? Was Proud Spell's Oaks or Alabama that much better than her Derby? Unless you're voting for Goldikova, I think Eight Belles has as good of argument as any other 3YO filly.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by smuthg

No idea? Was Proud Spell's Oaks or Alabama that much better than her Derby? Unless you're voting for Goldikova, I think Eight Belles has as good of argument as any other 3YO filly.

except that it's an award for the year, and sadly eight belles wasn't able to run the year. her derby placing was good, but not good enough imo to warrant the award. sentimentality shouldn't place her above a horse who had a better season, regardless of why that season occurred. keep in mind barbaro didn't win top 3 yo-and he showed a ton more than eight belles did up to that point in their careers-and he lost to bernardini, who had a very good year. barbaro may have had a better one, but generally the award isn't given on speculation.

[CSC]

None of Curlin's or Zenyatta's performances this year impressed me as much as Goldikova's at the Breeders Cup.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by CSC

None of Curlin's or Zenyatta's performances this year impressed me as much as Goldikova's at the Breeders Cup.

It's hard to not be impressed with her turn of foot, and I certainly was impressed with her ability and think she's the real deal...but it's also certainly impossible to overlook that she got what was probably the most beautiful trip of any Breeders' Cup winner at this year's event. But yes, her quarter mile of running was something to behold.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by Danzig

except that it's an award for the year, and sadly eight belles wasn't able to run the year. her derby placing was good, but not good enough imo to warrant the award. sentimentality shouldn't place her above a horse who had a better season, regardless of why that season occurred. keep in mind barbaro didn't win top 3 yo-and he showed a ton more than eight belles did up to that point in their careers-and he lost to bernardini, who had a very good year. barbaro may have had a better one, but generally the award isn't given on speculation.

oh, I agree with you, but, I could see how someone could argue that Eight Belles was the champion 3YO filly.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by smuthg

No idea? Was Proud Spell's Oaks or Alabama that much better than her Derby? Unless you're voting for Goldikova, I think Eight Belles has as good of argument as any other 3YO filly.

You dont get awards for the races you lose. She basically was the 2nd best of a bad lot in the Derby.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You dont get awards for the races you lose. She basically was the 2nd best of a bad lot in the Derby.

very true.