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Old 12-18-2008, 12:00 PM
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Obama IS tied to Blago regardless of whether he did anything right or wrong.
Yes, it was Obama's senate seat. Anything else?

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Why it is that every negative story about Democrats and the people questioning them supposedly is created by RNC and conservative talk show hosts?
I'm not talking about every negative story, I'm talking about this one. Look at what the RNC did here:

The afternoon of Fitzgeralds' announcement, right after Fitzgerald said Obama wasn't under scrutiny, right after he cautioned the press about "not casting aspersions", and he quoted Blago absolving Obama of playing the payoff game - the RNC put out a ridiculous internet ad implying Obama committed illegal activity.

That's the ad that even had GOP members calling out the RNC and demanding the ad be taken down immediately.

And there certainly were some conservative (and non-conservative) talk show hosts that picked up that RNC football and kept running with it (Hannity, O'Reilly)

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In my view the rush to defend Obama without the whole story being told is worse than questioning possible connections.
It's not rushing to defend someone by pointing out he prosecutor didn't find him doing anything wrong, and that even the accused said Obama didn't play the illegal activity game

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And the semantics of what person on his staff actually spoke to Blago is a technical way to wiggle out of the statement that he had no contact with Blago. If Rahm had contact then Obama had contact.
Obama said he had no contact with Blago. True. Obama never said his staff had no contact - Axelrod said that, and right after he said that (wrong), Obama came out and said that wasn't true.

And again, Obama earlier this week wanted to release all the conversations his office has had with Blago's office, and the prosecutor asked him not to.

That article says:

"There was no indication from sources that Emanuel brokered a deal, however."

"Emanuel, who has refused to comment on the issue, is not accused of wrongdoing."

"In portions of conversations released in a criminal complaint against Blagojevich, he can be heard complaining that Obama wouldn't give anything in return for a Jarrett appointment."

As I said, if something changes regarding Obama's involvement, wake me up.
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Old 12-18-2008, 01:37 PM
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Mr Obama , would never know anything about anyone who ever did anything wrong , ever . He would never know anything about any of his staff ever doing anything wrong with anybody who did something wrong. Geez its pretty simple.
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Old 12-18-2008, 02:48 PM
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Mr Obama , would never know anything about anyone who ever did anything wrong , ever . He would never know anything about any of his staff ever doing anything wrong with anybody who did something wrong. Geez its pretty simple.
i'm all in.

do you want to show your cards?
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Old 12-18-2008, 02:52 PM
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i'm all in.

do you want to show your cards?
LOL , ok you show me yours and Ill show you mine ,
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Old 12-18-2008, 02:55 PM
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LOL , ok you show me yours and Ill show you mine ,
you already know i'm far more interested in what you have than you'd ever be with what i have.
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Old 12-18-2008, 03:02 PM
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you already know i'm far more interested in what you have than you'd ever be with what i have.

Not really , Im interested in all kinds of stuff , how stuffed are you
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Old 12-18-2008, 03:11 PM
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Not really , Im interested in all kinds of stuff , how stuffed are you

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Old 12-18-2008, 07:48 PM
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Yes, it was Obama's senate seat. Anything else?



"In portions of conversations released in a criminal complaint against Blagojevich, he can be heard complaining that Obama wouldn't give anything in return for a Jarrett appointment."

As I said, if something changes regarding Obama's involvement, wake me up.
The article also says...
"A source with the Obama camp strongly denied Emanuel spoke with the governor directly about the seat, saying Emanuel only spoke with Blagojevich once recently to say he was taking the chief of staff post.

But sources with knowledge of the investigation said Blagojevich told his aides about the calls with Emanuel and sometimes gave them directions afterward. Sources said that early on, Emanuel pushed for the appointment of Jarrett to the governor and his staff and asked that it be done by a certain date.

At least some of the conversations between Emanuel and Blagojevich were likely caught on tape, sources said."


Bury your head in the sand on this but this IS a story because Obama IS the President and he IS connected with this entire mess. Not to mention his people DID lie initially about their involvment and when the president elects staff lies about something it makes me wonder why exactly they did so. Perhaps they were just covering their tracks and figured deny, deny, deny, until they were told that they had tapes with their guys where then Obama made the call to correct the "mistake". Like I said before imagine the reaction from the media if the Republicans were the crooked party.
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