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Old 12-18-2008, 09:00 AM
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In this instance the medication was used on raceday in an attempt to break the rules. Supposedly the shot was to the throat to try to get a horse with breathing problems through a race. (the horse ran up the track as the fav which is why it was tested) According to the information I received about the incident which is from an extremely reliable source, they had been getting away with this until the LA lab began a different test for the drug where before it had not been detected which is why the levels were so high.
Here's a question, when you train a horse and you see a trainer winning at 35-40% entering in the same race let's use Wayne Catalano as an example, how do you resist not levelling the playing field? Do you scratch...It can't be fun running for second purse. The reason I ask is what goes on in the mindet of the Trainer's playing it straight.

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Old 12-18-2008, 09:32 PM
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Here's a question, when you train a horse and you see a trainer winning at 35-40% entering in the same race let's use Wayne Catalano as an example, how do you resist not levelling the playing field? Do you scratch...It can't be fun running for second purse. The reason I ask is what goes on in the mindet of the Trainer's playing it straight.
It is of course frustrating yet I know that what you guys see in the papers about drug positives arent the problem. We all use those meds. It is the same as steroids. Virtually every trainer used them in one form or another. Everyone had access to them. The guys that abused them were pretty obvious just in watching their horses. But those horses rarely lasted long which was the downside of heavy use. The problem is throwing the book at guys for mistakes and trace levels of insignifigence. That distracts everyone from the real drug problem, the one that you wont see coming up in a positive test any time soon. The one that the authorities are barely aware of and seemingly unconcerned about.
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:16 PM
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That distracts everyone from the real drug problem, the one that you wont see coming up in a positive test any time soon. The one that the authorities are barely aware of and seemingly unconcerned about.
Interesting what that may be? There are drugs that are undetectable in the Olympics and I would venture to say that their testing is much more thorough than what Horseracing's is. Androl a household name now was untectable for awhile, like I said before the cheaters always seem a couple of steps ahead of the testers. Plus I am not sure horseracing really has shown an appetite to clean up the game, even with recent improvements in testing.
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Interesting what that may be? There are drugs that are undetectable in the Olympics and I would venture to say that their testing is much more thorough than what Horseracing's is. Androl a household name now was untectable for awhile, like I said before the cheaters always seem a couple of steps ahead of the testers. Plus I am not sure horseracing really has shown an appetite to clean up the game, even with recent improvements in testing.
I think that there are lots of differences in human and horse testing. One is that the scope of the sport of horse racing is so much larger than any comparable human sport. There are hundreds of races a day through out the country with horses training at a wide variety of facilities. There are very few olympic class athletes. Not to mention that humans have control over everything they put into their body and are in control of themselves 24 hours a day. Horses have no control what they ingest and are not under direct supervision 24 hours a day. Among the problems with horse racings testing is that we have different levels allowed of the same meds on a state to state basis, differnt states have varying levels of funding to conduct testing and different labs have similar but often different capabilities. There is no doubt that horseracing wants to clean up the sport but it is a complicated process wherein no one has complete control or authority and different jurisdiction simply havent done much to work together. However dont forget that most of the regulatory control over the drug testing in this country is directed by non racing government appointees. cheaters will always be one step ahead regardless of what they are cheating at.
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