Steelers TD 2 Feet Down?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

That is good because ESPN radio knows everything.

There is no way of knowing if that ball got in or not. Anyone that says they know for a fact that ball got in is a liar.

The real issue though is that the call on the field was no touchdown and the referee could not have possible saw something that made him think otherwise while reviewing the tape.

The ref screwed up. He should just admit it and move on.

I thought the replayed showed the ball crossing the line. I doubt I am lying about that. maybe my eyesight isnt 20/20 but it looked to me as though the end of the ball crossed the plane of the goal when he caught it. To say there is no way of knowing doesnt exactly support your position of it wasnt over either. It is still very hard to tell even after watching it. I dont really care either way though and if the ref thought it was over then he surely doesnt think he should apologixze.

[Antitrust32]

the officiating in the NFL has been horrific. I didnt see this play.. but if you go by how every other call has been made the officials probably screwed up again.

[Danzig]

they talked about it last night, and showed a replay-and drew a yellow line to indicate where the goal line was located. looked to me like the ball was on the line.

[ninetoone]

The ball should have to end up over the line anyway. The current rule sucks, reaching the ball over for a split second....gimme a break.

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I thought the replayed showed the ball crossing the line. I doubt I am lying about that. maybe my eyesight isnt 20/20 but it looked to me as though the end of the ball crossed the plane of the goal when he caught it. To say there is no way of knowing doesnt exactly support your position of it wasnt over either. It is still very hard to tell even after watching it. I dont really care either way though and if the ref thought it was over then he surely doesnt think he should apologixze.

You made my point. The replay judge is only supposed to overturn the call on the filed if they are 100% certain based on the replay. Nobody could say with 100% certainty whether he got in or not.

The right call was to stick with the call on the field. If the guy on the field said it was a TD then that should have been the call they went with.

Replay is only to overturn calls that are indisputable. The NFL replay ref screwed up.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

You made my point. The replay judge is only supposed to overturn the call on the filed if they are 100% certain based on the replay. Nobody could say with 100% certainty whether he got in or not.

The right call was to stick with the call on the field. If the guy on the field said it was a TD then that should have been the call they went with.

Replay is only to overturn calls that are indisputable. The NFL replay ref screwed up.

Obviously they were 100% certain it was the right call. You are saying that nobody could say with 100% certainty but the ref thought is was a TD with 100% certainty and his opinion is really all that matters.

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Obviously they were 100% certain it was the right call. You are saying that nobody could say with 100% certainty but the ref thought is was a TD with 100% certainty and his opinion is really all that matters.

No, the ref screwed up. Peter King, everyone at NBC last night, ESPN, etc. said they screwed up. No honest person could look at that and say they knew it was a TD. The guy must have had a plane to catch. He is the same guy that screwed up the tuck rule in the Oakland playoff game. He LOVES attention and the NFL has even said he seems to be involved in a ton of controversial calls. He likes to overturn his officials calls and make himself look smarter than everyone else. He won't be doing any playoff games this year.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...k15/index.html

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

No, the ref screwed up. Peter King, everyone at NBC last night, ESPN, etc. said they screwed up. No honest person could look at that and say they knew it was a TD. The guy must have had a plane to catch. He is the same guy that screwed up the tuck rule in the Oakland playoff game. He LOVES attention and the NFL has even said he seems to be involved in a ton of controversial calls. He likes to overturn his officials calls and make himself look smarter than everyone else. He won't be doing any playoff games this year.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...k15/index.html

I fail to see how honesty come into play. The ref thought that the ball crossed the line and made the call. Peter King says he believes the ball crossed the line. I agree that it was probably close enough to not overturn but that is my opinion and I am not a ref making the call.

[TheSpyder]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

The guy must have had a plane to catch.

You're close...the player broke the plane, that's the rule and that's that...

[declansharbor]

It's the ball that needs to break the goaline, obviously. Holmes touched the ball in the endzone, then switched the ball in his grasp as to possess it while coming forward(out of the endzone). As 9-1 said, its the call on the field that makes all the difference. There is ABOSLUTELY no way, that the call should have been reversed. Not enough evidence to support such a move. They should have stuck with the call on the field, which was on the gash hair line. Who ever said this sport isnt a game of inches?

PS. I love the call in the sense that it makes the Ravens more hungry for a win next week and goes into D-Town and bangs them up before the Birds put the nail in Dallas' coffin.

[2MinsToPost]

Bob Ryan on Around The Horn had a GREAT IDEA. Install a chip and sensors at both goal lines - no question then when the ball crosses the plain.

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

You're close...the player broke the plane, that's the rule and that's that...

WRONG. Learn the rules before you go making ridiculous statements like that.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

WRONG. Learn the rules before you go making ridiculous statements like that.

True, the only thing that matters is the ball...I watched the replay a dozen times and couldn't tell, saw the still photo and couldn't tell...was the camera EXACTLY on the goal line? Reminded me of a dead heat photo in racing...I tend to agree that they should have stayed with the call made on the field...perhaps they had a higher quality pic than what we saw...still, we'll never know what the Steelers would have done on 4th down! Even a chip in the ball wouldn't help as that wouldn't determine possession, down by contact etc.