Steelers TD 2 Feet Down?

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

i admit up front i'm a Steelers fan...... the over head shot, the ball breaks the plane of the GL just as Holmes hands contact the ball. they showed it in slowest action. the camera on the left of the offense has it too, but it's VERY quick and not as good as the overhead. both had to be seen in the slowest of motion.
i first said NO WAY! i didn't understand the argument of his feet? he clearly drug both feet in the end zone.

I am a Giants Fan who is struggling now but we have beat both of these teams.

That ball never got close to being a TD. Stop being a homer and admit you got a break.

The Steelers probably would have won, but they clearly didn't score a TD there, and what is even worse is the guys on the field said they didn't score and the guy overturned it with no real evidence.

The ref is going to get a slap on the wrist for screwing up, but he did screw up. The Ravens got screwed and that is part of the NFL.

The fact that he even referred to the guys feet makes me wonder if he even knew what the hell he was talking about. The feet don't matter at all. He was in the middle of the field, it wasn't like his feet were going to come down out of bounds.

This belief that if your feet are in the endzone but the ball isn't still makes it a TD is 100% incorrect. The ball has to hit the line, and clearly the ball never hit the line.

The real travesty is how often the NFL refs are screwing these games up. Earlier in the game they gave the Steelers a first down when the guy was about a full yard short of the 30. They reviewed it and he still screwed it up.

The NFL has an interest in seeing teams like the Steelers go far. They can say they don't but they do. Refs don't intentionally screw teams, but when the Cowboys, Giants, Steelers and a few others are involved these refs have a tendency to side with them. Same goes in the NBA with the star teams.

Just be happy the Steelers won, but admit they got a break.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

I am a Giants Fan who is struggling now but we have beat both of these teams.

That ball never got close to being a TD. Stop being a homer and admit you got a break.

The Steelers probably would have won, but they clearly didn't score a TD there, and what is even worse is the guys on the field said they didn't score and the guy overturned it with no real evidence.

The ref is going to get a slap on the wrist for screwing up, but he did screw up. The Ravens got screwed and that is part of the NFL.

The fact that he even referred to the guys feet makes me wonder if he even knew what the hell he was talking about. The feet don't matter at all. He was in the middle of the field, it wasn't like his feet were going to come down out of bounds.

This belief that if your feet are in the endzone but the ball isn't still makes it a TD is 100% incorrect. The ball has to hit the line, and clearly the ball never hit the line.

The real travesty is how often the NFL refs are screwing these games up. Earlier in the game they gave the Steelers a first down when the guy was about a full yard short of the 30. They reviewed it and he still screwed it up.

The NFL has an interest in seeing teams like the Steelers go far. They can say they don't but they do. Refs don't intentionally screw teams, but when the Cowboys, Giants, Steelers and a few others are involved these refs have a tendency to side with them. Same goes in the NBA with the star teams.

Just be happy the Steelers won, but admit they got a break.

the play at mid-field was a complete joke! that in no way was first down. in the end it was no harm.

the ball touched the goal-line but i didn't say Holmes had postion of it. should it have been overturned, probably not.

[ddthetide]

it's the first i'd seen this.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl,129009

by this it's not a TD. the key word is "postion" or "control"........ i still think the ball broke the plane just before this and Holmes would not have had "postion" or "control".

[Cannon Shell]

It was insanely close but i thought it was a TD though it was certainly not indisputable.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It was insanely close but i thought it was a TD though it was certainly not indisputable.

espn radio this morning, is saying that replay made the right call BUT it wasn't indisputable. i do agree it wasn't indisputable.

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

espn radio this morning, is saying that replay made the right call BUT it wasn't indisputable. i do agree it wasn't indisputable.

That is good because ESPN radio knows everything.

There is no way of knowing if that ball got in or not. Anyone that says they know for a fact that ball got in is a liar.

The real issue though is that the call on the field was no touchdown and the referee could not have possible saw something that made him think otherwise while reviewing the tape.

The ref screwed up. He should just admit it and move on.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Quiet Chris

That is good because ESPN radio knows everything.

There is no way of knowing if that ball got in or not. Anyone that says they know for a fact that ball got in is a liar.

The real issue though is that the call on the field was no touchdown and the referee could not have possible saw something that made him think otherwise while reviewing the tape.

The ref screwed up. He should just admit it and move on.

I thought the replayed showed the ball crossing the line. I doubt I am lying about that. maybe my eyesight isnt 20/20 but it looked to me as though the end of the ball crossed the plane of the goal when he caught it. To say there is no way of knowing doesnt exactly support your position of it wasnt over either. It is still very hard to tell even after watching it. I dont really care either way though and if the ref thought it was over then he surely doesnt think he should apologixze.