Lawyer Ron returns in St. Louis Derby

Originally Posted by moodwalker

Here are two...

Makybe Diva and Phar Lap

Or maybe Sunline and Might and Power

Zabeel and Strawberry Road.

In the picture of "our" industry they might be small players. And the reason for that is that they have "their" industry that they really don't need to compare to ours. The Australians don't need to come up here and run for our purse money...ever. They have plenty of their own.

Purse money means very little when speaking to "Quality of racing"....Garded stakes and prestiuous garded/group events matter....believe me, Australia racing is not prominent....nice try though digging up name from 20 yaesr ago...Strawberry Road was Americanized for his fame while Sunline beat nobody during her run, but she was a nice mare for beating cheap boys consistently....

I'll put it to yoiu in a big picture to understand what I mean....If Australia was crushed by an enormous earthquake/tsunami and wiped off the entire continent and killed every Thoroughbred that existed there --- the Throughbred horse racing industry would NOT be impacted significantly....get it?

Now, if North America or Europe were wiped out, it would cripple the industry....Would you not agree?

...Let me know if you want to take horse racing 201 next....

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Purse money means very little when speaking to "Quality of racing"....Garded stakes and prestiuous garded/group events matter....believe me, Australia racing is not prominent....nice try though digging up name from 20 yaesr ago...Strawberry Road was Americanized for his fame while Sunline beat nobody during her run, but she was a nice mare for beating cheap boys consistently....

I'll put it to yoiu in a big picture to understand what I mean....If Australia was crushed by an enormous earthquake/tsunami and wiped off the entire continent and killed every Thoroughbred that existed there --- the Throughbred horse racing industry would NOT be impacted significantly....get it?

Now, if North America or Europe were wiped out, it would cripple the industry....Would you not agree?

...Let me know if you want to take horse racing 201 next....

Joel I defend everyone's right to be caustic, even yours, but this post was extremely ignorant.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Purse money means very little when speaking to "Quality of racing"....Garded stakes and prestiuous garded/group events matter....believe me, Australia racing is not prominent....nice try though digging up name from 20 yaesr ago...Strawberry Road was Americanized for his fame while Sunline beat nobody during her run, but she was a nice mare for beating cheap boys consistently....

I'll put it to yoiu in a big picture to understand what I mean....If Australia was crushed by an enormous earthquake/tsunami and wiped off the entire continent and killed every Thoroughbred that existed there --- the Throughbred horse racing industry would NOT be impacted significantly....get it?

Now, if North America or Europe were wiped out, it would cripple the industry....Would you not agree?

...Let me know if you want to take horse racing 201 next....

No, Joel. I don't "get it." You are wrong here, buddy.

Every horse I mentioned is a champion, and if you don't care to research who they beat, what they won, and how they did it rather than just discounting them because they didn't run in America then that is your choice. I'm definitely not trying to convince you of anything. It isn't much of a debatable point.

The Melbourne Cup and incidentally the Flemington Spring Carnival coincide with our Breeders Cup. The Melbourne Cup is usually the first Tuesday after the Breeders Cup day.

Contrary to popular belief, a Breeders Cup race to Australians definitely isn't a bigger race to win than The Melbourne Cup.

Elvstroem went to Dubai and won two years ago in the Duty Free, Takeover Target and Choisir won Group One sprints at Royal Ascot in the last few years, and they do consistently go to Japan and Hong Kong and run competitively.

Hong Kong racing is made up of former Australian and Kiwi gallopers who change their names. There was one formerly named Eltira that did pretty good for quite a while (Silent Witness)

There will be European, Asian, and Arab-owned horses contesting the Melbourne Cup, Cox Plate, and Caufield Cup this year, they always do.

If you were Australian, wouldn't you rather win a Cox Plate, or a Caulfield or Melbourne Cup than a Breeders Cup?

I'm not sure why you have taken this attitude with me, because I assure you that I won't be taking any lessons from you.

And I can also guarantee that you wouldn't be popping off your mouth if we weren't on this gay-ass message board and face to face.

Your true ****-ish attitude has shown through Joel, and you have quit debating topics and are now just acting like a spoiled kid.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by moodwalker

No, Joel. I don't "get it." You are wrong here, buddy.

Every horse I mentioned is a champion, and if you don't care to research who they beat, what they won, and how they did it rather than just discounting them because they didn't run in America then that is your choice. I'm definitely not trying to convince you of anything. It isn't much of a debatable point.

The Melbourne Cup and incidentally the Flemington Spring Carnival coincide with our Breeders Cup. The Melbourne Cup is usually the first Tuesday after the Breeders Cup day.

Contrary to popular belief, a Breeders Cup race to Australians definitely isn't a bigger race to win than The Melbourne Cup.

Elvstroem went to Dubai and won two years ago in the Duty Free, Takeover Target and Choisir won Group One sprints at Royal Ascot in the last few years, and they do consistently go to Japan and Hong Kong and run competitively.

Hong Kong racing is made up of former Australian and Kiwi gallopers who change their names. There was one formerly named Eltira that did pretty good for quite a while (Silent Witness)

There will be European, Asian, and Arab-owned horses contesting the Melbourne Cup, Cox Plate, and Caufield Cup this year, they always do.

If you were Australian, wouldn't you rather win a Cox Plate, or a Caulfield or Melbourne Cup than a Breeders Cup?

I'm not sure why you have taken this attitude with me, because I assure you that I won't be taking any lessons from you.

And I can also guarantee that you wouldn't be popping off your mouth if we weren't on this gay-ass message board and face to face.

Your true ****-ish attitude has shown through Joel, and you have quit debating topics and are now just acting like a spoiled kid.

Moodwalker, where yo' "Lawyer Ron is the f'shizzle because..."???? I feel my eyes glowin' green, dawg, and that BWEEEEEEEEE music is startin' up... move 'dis Down Unda hatin' off my boy's thread and start tellin' me 'bout The Barrister Ronald, know what I'm sayin'?


Cajun, word. You a wise girl.

Originally Posted by moodwalker

No, Joel. I don't "get it." You are wrong here, buddy.

Every horse I mentioned is a champion, and if you don't care to research who they beat, what they won, and how they did it rather than just discounting them because they didn't run in America then that is your choice. I'm definitely not trying to convince you of anything. It isn't much of a debatable point.

The Melbourne Cup and incidentally the Flemington Spring Carnival coincide with our Breeders Cup. The Melbourne Cup is usually the first Tuesday after the Breeders Cup day.

Contrary to popular belief, a Breeders Cup race to Australians definitely isn't a bigger race to win than The Melbourne Cup.

Elvstroem went to Dubai and won two years ago in the Duty Free, Takeover Target and Choisir won Group One sprints at Royal Ascot in the last few years, and they do consistently go to Japan and Hong Kong and run competitively.

Hong Kong racing is made up of former Australian and Kiwi gallopers who change their names. There was one formerly named Eltira that did pretty good for quite a while (Silent Witness)

There will be European, Asian, and Arab-owned horses contesting the Melbourne Cup, Cox Plate, and Caufield Cup this year, they always do.

If you were Australian, wouldn't you rather win a Cox Plate, or a Caulfield or Melbourne Cup than a Breeders Cup?

I'm not sure why you have taken this attitude with me, because I assure you that I won't be taking any lessons from you.

And I can also guarantee that you wouldn't be popping off your mouth if we weren't on this gay-ass message board and face to face.

Your true ****-ish attitude has shown through Joel, and you have quit debating topics and are now just acting like a spoiled kid.

None of the best horses in the world are in Australia - period....a loss of their racing rpoduct would not affect the sport...period.....they have had no Seattle's Slews, no Mr. Prospectors, No Sadler's Wells, no Bernardinis, No A.P. indys....no Man O' Wars, no Seceretariats, no Dr. Fagers, no Ruffians, no Foregos....no Citations....Do you see where I'm goi9ng witrh this?

You are trying to justify there importance like justifying that the Italian basketball league has any improtance in the world on the grand scle of professional basketball.....it just doesn't...sorry man..

Oh, ad Sumline won the Cox's Plate sveral consecutive years not the MElbourne Cup...got one insignifgicant race mixed up with another....

It still doesn't change the fact that ytou screwed up by thinking we were argueing Danzig's value as a sire instead his value as a sire oif sires......nice try..

Oh, ad I would tell you every word of this to your face as I am typing it on this keypad because it is what I believe is to be true....

BTW, none of those "Australian Greats" impacted the sport around the world.....Northern Dancer, Raise a Native, Storm Cat...those are a few horses that have impacted the sport around the world - including Australia - but Astralia has never impacted anything truly relavent outside of its racing circles - a racing circle that is inferior to most racing markets....

They actually brought in 3-4 guys from Australia to try to talk Graham Motion into bringing Bette Talk Now to the Melbourne Cup because the thought that it would be one of the greatest coups for their racing product....If that phony turf horse would be a sesation in Australia - that speaks volumes to how poor racing is there.....

Have a nice day

[Buffymommy]

Like sands through the gloggles, so are the days of our lives....

But good to see that we are now atleast arguing about horses and not personally attacking each other anymore...


Lawyer Ron is the f'shizzle because... he is! I really like this horse and I hope he does well the rest of the year. I want him to kick some booty!

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

None of the best horses in the world are in Australia - period....a loss of their racing rpoduct would not affect the sport...period.....they have had no Seattle's Slews, no Mr. Prospectors, No Sadler's Wells, no Bernardinis, No A.P. indys....no Man O' Wars, no Seceretariats, no Dr. Fagers, no Ruffians, no Foregos....no Citations....Do you see where I'm goi9ng witrh this?

You are trying to justify there importance like justifying that the Italian basketball league has any improtance in the world on the grand scle of professional basketball.....it just doesn't...sorry man..

Oh, ad Sumline won the Cox's Plate sveral consecutive years not the MElbourne Cup...got one insignifgicant race mixed up with another....

It still doesn't change the fact that ytou screwed up by thinking we were argueing Danzig's value as a sire instead his value as a sire oif sires......nice try..

Oh, ad I would tell you every word of this to your face as I am typing it on this keypad because it is what I believe is to be true....

BTW, none of those "Australian Greats" impacted the sport around the world.....Northern Dancer, Raise a Native, Storm Cat...those are a few horses that have impacted the sport around the world - including Australia - but Astralia has never impacted anything truly relavent outside of its racing circles - a racing circle that is inferior to most racing markets....

They actually brought in 3-4 guys from Australia to try to talk Graham Motion into bringing Bette Talk Now to the Melbourne Cup because the thought that it would be one of the greatest coups for their racing product....If that phony turf horse would be a sesation in Australia - that speaks volumes to how poor racing is there.....

Have a nice day

I think Danzig is a fine sire of sires, and I wasn't confused... I knew what you were saying and had read every post before I responded. I must have just "mistyped." Let me make sure you are clear on what I meant. I think Danzig is a dandy sire of sires, and I disagree with you.

And even if Danehill were his only son to stand I would still think this.

If you will go to the world thoroughbred rankings (which are created by your loved "industry experts") I can assure you that there are always some Australians on there.

http://www.horseracingintfed.com/res...kings_Site.asp

Makybe Diva, Starcraft, and Silent Witness were in the top 10 at the end of 2005, but I guess you are more of an expert than the International Federation of Horseracing Authorities. Only two U.S. based horses were, St. Liam and Leroidesanimaux.

Look Hoss, you aren't going to teach me anything on here. I promise you.

If you want to worship Louisiana breds going six panels in a cloud of dust, be my guest. This game will be an international sport in the near future, and if you don't believe that Australia or Australian horses will be a factor then that is something you can deal with when it comes. I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise.

I'm leaving for Australia in less than a month to go work under a trainer, and if I go down there and realize that their horses are just inferior I will come on here and say so. But don't be waiting for that post to come anytime soon.

f u c k yourself,

and good luck with your writing

Originally Posted by moodwalker

I think Danzig is a fine sire of sires, and I wasn't confused... I knew what you were saying and had read every post before I responded. I must have just "mistyped." Let me make sure you are clear on what I meant. I think Danzig is a dandy sire of sires, and I disagree with you.

And even if Danehill were his only son to stand I would still think this.

If you will go to the world thoroughbred rankings (which are created by your loved "industry experts") I can assure you that there are always some Australians on there.

http://www.horseracingintfed.com/res...kings_Site.asp

Makybe Diva, Starcraft, and Silent Witness were in the top 10 at the end of 2005, but I guess you are more of an expert than the International Federation of Horseracing Authorities. Only two U.S. based horses were, St. Liam and Leroidesanimaux.

Look Hoss, you aren't going to teach me anything on here. I promise you.

If you want to worship Louisiana breds going six panels in a cloud of dust, be my guest. This game will be an international sport in the near future, and if you don't believe that Australia or Australian horses will be a factor then that is something you can deal with when it comes. I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise.

I'm leaving for Australia in less than a month to go work under a trainer, and if I go down there and realize that their horses are just inferior I will come on here and say so. But don't be waiting for that post to come anytime soon.

f u c k yourself,

and good luck with your writing

Have fun hot-walking horses down under...I wish you the best success....you sound like a person that should reach high levels of it...

[GenuineRisk]

All I have to say is:

http://us.imdb.com/gallery/mptv/1319...th_key=0077031

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Have fun hot-walking horses down under...I wish you the best success....you sound like a person that should reach high levels of it...

Good one, Joel.

[Scurlogue Champ]

At least they won't make me dress up like an idiot and run around the racetrack (Fairgrounds)