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Old 12-10-2008, 05:02 PM
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whats the total payroll for the under achievers?
Around $160 million but they are nowhere near done yet.
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:29 PM
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Around $160 million but they are nowhere near done yet.
The best part is that IMO there are no other star types except for Teixeria left. The Yankees need a CF and there are no viable FA's out there. They need a RF and there arent any of those that arent flawed in one way or another. They still need more starting pitching and Burnett and Sheets are the 2 best but are injury risks. Lowe is a good pitcher but I wouldnt tie up a lot of money in him. The bullpen still lacks depth, Cano, Jeter, Posada and whoever plays CF is the majors worst up the middle defense. Swisher at 1st is coming off his worst season. Posada is still a question mark physically. Playing Molina more than occasionally is like playing a game where you only get 24 outs. Matsui has a bad knee. And hank expects them to win the WS. They are the third best team in their own division and if Boston signs tex the gap gets wider.
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Old 12-10-2008, 06:01 PM
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The best part is that IMO there are no other star types except for Teixeria left. The Yankees need a CF and there are no viable FA's out there. They need a RF and there arent any of those that arent flawed in one way or another. They still need more starting pitching and Burnett and Sheets are the 2 best but are injury risks. Lowe is a good pitcher but I wouldnt tie up a lot of money in him. The bullpen still lacks depth, Cano, Jeter, Posada and whoever plays CF is the majors worst up the middle defense. Swisher at 1st is coming off his worst season. Posada is still a question mark physically. Playing Molina more than occasionally is like playing a game where you only get 24 outs. Matsui has a bad knee. And hank expects them to win the WS. They are the third best team in their own division and if Boston signs tex the gap gets wider.
I look for Toronto to make a huge move up this season. The Yankees have too many holes to fill and like you said, there are precious few high impact possibilities left to buy contention.

Unless the Rays start addressing their needs, Boston can walk through this year. The deal for Hermida fell through (Rays are unwilling to part with their pitching prospects) but are rumored to be in talks with the Cardinals and close to a deal involving Rick Ankiel for Sonnestine and/or Jackson. They still haven't address the bullpen situation (legit closer)
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Old 12-10-2008, 06:30 PM
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I look for Toronto to make a huge move up this season. The Yankees have too many holes to fill and like you said, there are precious few high impact possibilities left to buy contention.

Unless the Rays start addressing their needs, Boston can walk through this year. The deal for Hermida fell through (Rays are unwilling to part with their pitching prospects) but are rumored to be in talks with the Cardinals and close to a deal involving Rick Ankiel for Sonnestine and/or Jackson. They still haven't address the bullpen situation (legit closer)
Toronto's pitching staff is a mess. They arent going anywhere. If the Rays got Ankiel for either of those two they would be much better with Price going into the rotation. There are lots of closers available and the last few left are not only better than what they had last year the market will keep the pricesdown.
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Toronto's pitching staff is a mess. They arent going anywhere. If the Rays got Ankiel for either of those two they would be much better with Price going into the rotation. There are lots of closers available and the last few left are not only better than what they had last year the market will keep the pricesdown.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:26 PM
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Old 12-10-2008, 06:33 PM
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I look for Toronto to make a huge move up this season. The Yankees have too many holes to fill and like you said, there are precious few high impact possibilities left to buy contention.

Unless the Rays start addressing their needs, Boston can walk through this year. The deal for Hermida fell through (Rays are unwilling to part with their pitching prospects) but are rumored to be in talks with the Cardinals and close to a deal involving Rick Ankiel for Sonnestine and/or Jackson. They still haven't address the bullpen situation (legit closer)
I'd give up Sonnestine before Jackson. I think Jackson is still learning to pitch and has more upside. Not so sure I'd give up both. It would be nice to solidify right field. Gabe Gross is not an every day player.
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Old 12-10-2008, 07:47 PM
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I'd give up Sonnestine before Jackson. I think Jackson is still learning to pitch and has more upside. Not so sure I'd give up both. It would be nice to solidify right field. Gabe Gross is not an every day player.
I think it's going to come down to what roles Nieman and Price are going to fill. Jackson never got an ounce of run support last seasn, has shown some real concentration issues and an overall lack of mental toughness. Perhaps it's just a maturity deal, but he's definately a question mark. Sonnestine got through with blue smoke and mirrors last year, he's not great but serviceable. If it took both to land Ankiel, I wouldn't be overly concerned, but if I could get away with just one, I agree Sonny should go. I hope if it's both, they're looking at a DH or some prospects to be packaged in. There is nothing in the free agent market that looks like a fit and RF is a huge problem (I think Zorbrist and Henske will be gone)
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Old 12-11-2008, 10:39 PM
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I'd give up Sonnestine before Jackson. I think Jackson is still learning to pitch and has more upside. Not so sure I'd give up both. It would be nice to solidify right field. Gabe Gross is not an every day player.
Matt Joyce from the Tigers for Edwin Jackson. Today. The kid's from Tampa, so that pretty - don't know much about him
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:09 PM
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More pitching for Yankees
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Old 12-12-2008, 07:37 PM
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this whole salary cap just doesn't apply to the NY Yankees.....i love when this team buy's at an all time high just to watch their assets lose value and get worse year by year by year after joining the club

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I'd give up Sonnestine before Jackson. I think Jackson is still learning to pitch and has more upside. Not so sure I'd give up both. It would be nice to solidify right field. Gabe Gross is not an every day player.
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