Lawyer Ron returns in St. Louis Derby

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

The how come AMerican buyers do ot go buy there horses and bring then here like they do in Brazil, Chile and different countries in Europe?...I'll tell you why - because they are not as good as most other parts of the world, that is why....

Oh, and I am not pretending to understnd Australian racing other knowing they are small players in the grand picture of our industry - hence the comparison to New Jersey or louisiana programs - or any small programs...

Because the South American horses are running for G1 purses of about $50,000, while in Australia they run for $1,000,000 (2mill Aussie$) G1 purses. it's the same reason we can't go buy the Japanese horses; their purses are big enough that the American buyers can't buy top performers for a song. Most of the Euro horses sold to the US (as opposed to the raiders) were second class over there and the buyers hope they will improve with Lasix and dry turf. Back when I started going to the races, there were several good Aussie and Kiwi runners in the US, especially in California, horses like Daryl's Joy, Broker's Tip II, Divide and Rule, all classic winners back home and winners of races which would later become grade 1 when grading was introduced.

You did notice when Elvstroem won the Dubai Duty Free a year or so ago? Or when the third or fourth best sprinter in Australia, Choisir, went to Royal Ascot and won a G1? Australia/New Zealand is where most of the horses who race in Hong Kong are bred, including Silent Witness. Australian horses run without any drugs and any horse that bleeds after a race is banned from racing after the second occurence. They run on hard, dry turf and wet, soggy turf, left and right handed and down straights, in front of crowds that make ours look pathetic. Racehorses actually race full campaigns and are national heros there, unlike in this country.

I realize that the learned gentleman is not about to let a few facts make a dent in his parochial prejudices. But others who read this board may be interested in investigating the racing in a country where the sport still has the status and visibility that it had in this country 60 years ago.

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Because the South American horses are running for G1 purses of about $50,000, while in Australia they run for $1,000,000 (2mill Aussie$) G1 purses. it's the same reason we can't go buy the Japanese horses; their purses are big enough that the American buyers can't buy top performers for a song. Most of the Euro horses sold to the US (as opposed to the raiders) were second class over there and the buyers hope they will improve with Lasix and dry turf. Back when I started going to the races, there were several good Aussie and Kiwi runners in the US, especially in California, horses like Daryl's Joy, Broker's Tip II, Divide and Rule, all classic winners back home and winners of races which would later become grade 1 when grading was introduced.

You did notice when Elvstroem won the Dubai Duty Free a year or so ago? Or when the third or fourth best sprinter in Australia, Choisir, went to Royal Ascot and won a G1? Australia/New Zealand is where most of the horses who race in Hong Kong are bred, including Silent Witness. Australian horses run without any drugs and any horse that bleeds after a race is banned from racing after the second occurence. They run on hard, dry turf and wet, soggy turf, left and right handed and down straights, in front of crowds that make ours look pathetic. Racehorses actually race full campaigns and are national heros there, unlike in this country.

I realize that the learned gentleman is not about to let a few facts make a dent in his parochial prejudices. But others who read this board may be interested in investigating the racing in a country where the sport still has the status and visibility that it had in this country 60 years ago.

Fine, but I still haven't gotten an explanation as to why they never ship and patron the Breedser' Cup, Japan big days of racing, Dubai big days of racing, etc,?

...and why don't they have any realy impactful blood that has exited that country made an impact in teh States or other big markets?..other than Strawberry Road...

I mean, the Sheiks have more money than God but they still shiop around for all of the worlds big races, and so does Coolmore and many of the big players in Japan, etc... - so you can't say that its money driven.....

[slotdirt]

Didn't somebody mention that the St. Louis Derby has been run for like 50 years? Funny how every news story on the race calls it the "inaugural" St. Louis Derby.

[GenuineRisk]

Okay dawgs; I've had enough of all dis yellin' and disrespectin' on a thread about my main man, Lawyer Ron. I don' wanna see no more posts bringing bad energy into his aura, know what I'm sayin'? From here on out, every post on dis thread best be startin' wid, "Lawyer Ron is the f'shizzle because..." and then I want ch'all be postin' some good reasons why he's the f'shizzle. I mean it. I love me some bitchslappin' on the OT boards as much as the next chick, but I don't want no mo' slappin' on Lawyer Ron's thread.

I mean it. Don't make me go all Lou Ferrigno on yo' asses.

BuffyM, I emailed to the NTRA.com site, "Yo what up, why you be hatin' on Lawyer Ron and not showing his race so we can give him some love?" so maybe they'll post it. You could email them, too, though maybe you want to be usin' some better grammar than that when you ask 'em.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Okay dawgs; I've had enough of all dis yellin' and disrespectin' on a thread about my main man, Lawyer Ron. I don' wanna see no more posts bringing bad energy into his aura, know what I'm sayin'? From here on out, every post on dis thread best be startin' wid, "Lawyer Ron is the f'shizzle because..." and then I want ch'all be postin' some good reasons why he's the f'shizzle. I mean it. I love me some bitchslappin' on the OT boards as much as the next chick, but I don't want no mo' slappin' on Lawyer Ron's thread.

I mean it. Don't make me go all Lou Ferrigno on yo' asses.

BuffyM, I emailed to the NTRA.com site, "Yo what up, why you be hatin' on Lawyer Ron and not showing his race so we can give him some love?" so maybe they'll post it. You could email them, too, though maybe you want to be usin' some better grammar than that when you ask 'em.

LOVE this post. HILARIOUS, Genuine.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

LOVE this post. HILARIOUS, Genuine.

Um, lovely Cajun? I did not notice this post starting with "Lawyer Ron is the f'shizzle because..." I'm sure it was just an oversight so I'll let it go this time...

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Um, lovely Cajun? I did not notice this post starting with "Lawyer Ron is the f'shizzle because..." I'm sure it was just an oversight so I'll let it go this time...

Next time, we'll both tell them motha fuggas to REPRESENT! Ya hear what I be saying, fool?

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Okay dawgs; I've had enough of all dis yellin' and disrespectin' on a thread about my main man, Lawyer Ron. I don' wanna see no more posts bringing bad energy into his aura, know what I'm sayin'? From here on out, every post on dis thread best be startin' wid, "Lawyer Ron is the f'shizzle because..." and then I want ch'all be postin' some good reasons why he's the f'shizzle. I mean it. I love me some bitchslappin' on the OT boards as much as the next chick, but I don't want no mo' slappin' on Lawyer Ron's thread.

I mean it. Don't make me go all Lou Ferrigno on yo' asses.

BuffyM, I emailed to the NTRA.com site, "Yo what up, why you be hatin' on Lawyer Ron and not showing his race so we can give him some love?" so maybe they'll post it. You could email them, too, though maybe you want to be usin' some better grammar than that when you ask 'em.

ummm i ran this through alta vista to interpret it into english.
Lawyer Ron is the new people's horse. Peeps, UNITE.

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Didn't somebody mention that the St. Louis Derby has been run for like 50 years? Funny how every news story on the race calls it the "inaugural" St. Louis Derby.

The St. Louis Derby was run at Cahokia Downs ... from 1954 at least through the 1960's ... and possibly until 1979 ... when that exquisitely beautiful venue for thoroughbred racing shut its gates.

The race was discontinued ... until Fairmount decided to renew it this year.