Worth a Thought?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Well Armed?

2nd San Pasqual G2 to Zappa, defeating Heatseeker (Santa Anita G1 et al), Arson Squad (Meadowlands Cup G2), Molengoa (Mervyn LeRoy G2)

1st San Antonio G2 defeating Heatseeker (Santa Anita G1 et al), Awesome Gem (3rd BC Classic G1), Zappa (San Pasqual G2 et al), Big Booster (San Juan Capistrano G2 et al), Student Council (Pimlico Special G1)

3rd Dubai World Cup G1 to Curlin, Asiatic Boy defeating A.P. Arrow (Clark G1)

1st San Diego G2 defeating Surf Cat (San Carlos G2 et al.), Rebellion (Commonwealth G2 et al), Global Hunter

2nd Pacific Classic G1 to Go Between, defeating Mast Track (Hollywood Gold Cup G1), Student Council (Pimlico Special G1), Surf Cat (San Carlos G2 et al), Delosvientos (Brooklyn G2 et al), Awesome Gem, Zappa (San Pasqual G2 et al)

1st Goodwood G1 defeating Tiago (Oaklawn G2), Albertus Maximus (BC Dirt Mile et al), Surf Cat (Mervyn LeRoy G2 et al), Mast Track (Hollywood Gold Cup G1), Spirit One (Arlington Million G1T), Tres Barrachos (Swaps G2), Zappa (San Pasqual G2 et al)

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

2nd San Pasqual G2 to Zappa, defeating Heatseeker (Santa Anita G1 et al), Arson Squad (Meadowlands Cup G2), Molengoa (Mervyn LeRoy G2)

1st San Antonio G2 defeating Heatseeker (Santa Anita G1 et al), Awesome Gem (3rd BC Classic G1), Zappa (San Pasqual G2 et al), Big Booster (San Juan Capistrano G2 et al), Student Council (Pimlico Special G1)

3rd Dubai World Cup G1 to Curlin, Asiatic Boy defeating A.P. Arrow (Clark G1)

1st San Diego G2 defeating Surf Cat (San Carlos G2 et al.), Rebellion (Commonwealth G2 et al), Global Hunter

2nd Pacific Classic G1 to Go Between, defeating Mast Track (Hollywood Gold Cup G1), Student Council (Pimlico Special G1), Surf Cat (San Carlos G2 et al), Delosvientos (Brooklyn G2 et al), Awesome Gem, Zappa (San Pasqual G2 et al)

1st Goodwood G1 defeating Tiago (Oaklawn G2), Albertus Maximus (BC Dirt Mile et al), Surf Cat (Mervyn LeRoy G2 et al), Mast Track (Hollywood Gold Cup G1), Spirit One (Arlington Million G1T), Tres Barrachos (Swaps G2), Zappa (San Pasqual G2 et al)

Synthetic results can be used to enhance a horse's record if a horse has a good dirt or grass record. When they are the ONLY surface a horse has enjoyed success on, they are pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Synthetic results can be used to enhance a horse's record if a horse has a good dirt or grass record. When they are the ONLY surface a horse has enjoyed success on, they are pretty meaningless in the grand scheme of things.

Note that Heatseeker, Tiago, Student Council, Surf Cat, Rebellion, have all shown top form on both conventional dirt and synthetic surfaces in graded stakes company.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Note that Heatseeker, Tiago, Student Council, Surf Cat, Rebellion, have all shown top form on both conventional dirt and synthetic surfaces in graded stakes company.

And when did Curlin beat them? He didn't. He beat Well Armed and that's the horse we are talking about. Nobody is debating whether or not Well Armed is a top synthetic horse. He beat him on dirt though and Well Armed is far, far from being the same horse on dirt as he is on synthetic.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Nobody is debating whether or not Well Armed is a top synthetic horse. He beat him on dirt though and Well Armed is far, far from being the same horse on dirt as he is on synthetic.

What makes you say that? Well Armed ran but once on the dirt this year and got beat (like Einstein) by a horse unbeaten in his last 7 main track starts.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

What makes you say that? Well Armed ran but once on the dirt this year and got beat (like Einstein) by a horse unbeaten in his last 7 main track starts.

He also stunk up the place a couple of times in Dubai. He was 9th, beaten 16 lengths in the UAE 2000 Guineas and 11th, beaten 26 in the UAE Derby.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

He also stunk up the place a couple of times in Dubai. He was 9th, beaten 16 lengths in the UAE 2000 Guineas and 11th, beaten 26 in the UAE Derby.

Never mind that those races were over 2 years ago...oh...and he was almost put down a week after the UAE Derby cuz they had been running him with a broken pelvis (he actually crushed in his first Dubai start IIRC).

More field trials are needed to test the hypothesis, Professor.