Does this taint the Travers?

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

The injury could have occured at any time between the race and Sunday morning.

Most likely it didn't occur during the race ... because Bluegrass Cat outfinished the rest of the field ... not an easy thing to do with a cracked pastern.

If he had backed up suddenly around the turn or in the stretch ... we could attribute his performance to the injury. But that wasn't the case.

Sigh,
BB you are really supposed to be better than this. Do you honestly believe whatyou just said? That he fractured it just hanging around his stall last night?
It happened during the race obviously, and no it didn't taint it one bit. But it does give me just a little perspective on why he ran away so easily. That borken heart **** is for sappy movies. Horses dont get broken hearts, if they did then poor ole BC wouldnt been 2nd in the Derby after "getting his heart broken, sniff sniff" in the Blue Grass.
Amd I really talking to adults here? You honestly believe in broken hearts and horses fracturing a pastern in a stall vs in the mile and a quarter race they just ran in?
This thread is a new low here.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Sigh,
BB you are really supposed to be better than this. Do you honestly believe whatyou just said? That he fractured it just hanging around his stall last night?

Single word response ... Alydar.

No ... make that two words ... Saint Liam.

Oooops ... I guess that's three words.

Hey, Mike ... anything can happen at any time with these fragile creatures. If the horse was in pain during the race ... his body language would have shown it ... and an experienced jockey like Velazquez would have picked up on it right away ... or pulling up after the race ... or walking back to unsaddle ... or surely the groom would have when he led him back to the barn ... or before putting him beddy-bye.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Single word response ... Alydar.

No ... make that two words ... Saint Liam.

Oooops ... I guess that's three words.

Hey, Mike ... anything can happen at any time with these fragile creatures. If the horse was in pain during the race ... his body language would have shown it ... and an experienced jockey like Velazquez would have picked up on it right away ... or pulling up after the race ... or walking back to unsaddle ... or surely the groom would have when he led him back to the barn ... or before putting him beddy-bye.

Not true, injuries that occur in a hard race often don't show up until the next day! Horses are athletes, they know when they are gonna race and the adrenalin rush can often mask an injury until later...that's why any trainer will always answer questions about future plans by adding, "lets see how he comes out of this race!"

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Not true, injuries that occur in a hard race often don't show up until the next day! Horses are athletes, they know when they are gonna race and the adrenalin rush can often mask an injury until later...that's why any trainer will always answer questions about future plans by adding, "lets see how he comes out of this race!"

Sure ...

... but injuries can also occur when a horse isn't racing.

In this case ... as in most ... we'll never know ... 'cause the horses never tell us.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Sure ...

... but injuries can also occur when a horse isn't racing.

In this case ... as in most ... we'll never know ... 'cause the horses never tell us.

Absolutely true! My guess is that it happened in the race and would possibly explain why he flattened out in the stretch...but it's a guess nothing more!

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Absolutely true! My guess is that it happened in the race and would possibly explain why he flattened out in the stretch...but it's a guess nothing more!

My guess is that J.T. Lundy may have been hanging around his barn.

But that too ... is just a guess.

[dalakhani]

I think the idea that this fine performance was tainted is ridiculous. Even on BGC's best day, it wasnt going to beat Bernardini yesterday.

I agree with BB. The injury could have happened any time and it certainly did not affect the outcome.

[ateamstupid]

The way I feel..

1.) It's definitely a shame that this happened.. BGC was a nice 3-year-old who could've taken some of the later 3-year-old stakes (IN Derby, Pegasus, etc.) this year.

2.) It's pretty irrelevant whether it happened in the race or not, considering BGC could've had eight legs plus a set of wings and never gotten close to Bernardini at the wire.