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Old 11-26-2008, 03:54 PM
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The question was simply do I see 3yo's beating top class older horses? There were no conditions put on the question so I answered what was asked of me. I could have gone further and mentioned Conduit and Goldikova also but I didn't.
Never mind that Curlin finished ahead of Colonel John in the BC, the very same horse that nostrilized Mambo In Seattle at Saratoga.

The Travers has proven to be a pretty unproductive race, with its two next out winners (Court Vision and Tale Of Ekati) arguably poorly spotted in the Travers in the first place, with the former seeming to prefer turf and the latter favoring one-turn. Note losses by Pyro, Harlem Rocker, Macho Again, Cool Coal Man, D'Tara, and Tres Barrachos (not forgetting Mambo In Seattle's embarrassing efforts) also out of that race.

Whether or not he is a Travers winner (do you hold Belmont winner D'Tara in high regard as well?) he is completely overmatched against the likes of Commentator.
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Old 11-27-2008, 12:47 AM
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Never mind that Curlin finished ahead of Colonel John in the BC, the very same horse that nostrilized Mambo In Seattle at Saratoga.

The Travers has proven to be a pretty unproductive race, with its two next out winners (Court Vision and Tale Of Ekati) arguably poorly spotted in the Travers in the first place, with the former seeming to prefer turf and the latter favoring one-turn. Note losses by Pyro, Harlem Rocker, Macho Again, Cool Coal Man, D'Tara, and Tres Barrachos (not forgetting Mambo In Seattle's embarrassing efforts) also out of that race.

Whether or not he is a Travers winner (do you hold Belmont winner D'Tara in high regard as well?) he is completely overmatched against the likes of Commentator.
I don't disagree that he's overmatched by Commentator. I don't think he's overmatched by the rest of the field though.
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