Prince of Change reaches for dangerous 'retreads!

[Antitrust32]

[quote=dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

So you are saying that any other president would have pushed the issue on Iraq the way Bush did?????????????????????

Surely you jest.

yes at that time back in 02 or 03 the dems were for the war also. the intelligence would have still been the same (its not like bush and cheney alone came up with the WMD thing - tons of countries invaded Iraq with us because of that international intelligence & I doubt they would have went to war because Bush says there are weapons).

So yes I believe any Prez would have gone to war in Iraq. Like Pgardn said though.. the way it was handled after that would have been different for each individual hypothetical president.

Do you forget that the whole country was behind the war in Iraq when we invaded?

[dalakhani]

[quote=Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

yes at that time back in 02 or 03 the dems were for the war also. the intelligence would have still been the same (its not like bush and cheney alone came up with the WMD thing - tons of countries invaded Iraq with us because of that international intelligence & I doubt they would have went to war because Bush says there are weapons).

So yes I believe any Prez would have gone to war in Iraq. Like Pgardn said though.. the way it was handled after that would have been different for each individual hypothetical president.

Do you forget that the whole country was behind the war in Iraq when we invaded?

No, the whole country WASNT in favor of Iraq. The whole country was given false information and called traitors if you didnt agree with the "bush doctrine". I dont think most any other, dem or republican, would have lied to congress and to the world for that matter and taken such a brazen stance.

International intelligence? Ton of countries? OMG, you win.

[timmgirvan]

^^^^^^^^
disregards facts that don't fit his worldview

[Antitrust32]

[quote=dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

No, the whole country WASNT in favor of Iraq. The whole country was given false information and called traitors if you didnt agree with the "bush doctrine". I dont think most any other, dem or republican, would have lied to congress and to the world for that matter and taken such a brazen stance.

International intelligence? Ton of countries? OMG, you win.

this whole post is full of dangerous assumptions ESPECIALLY bolded sentence. Your conspiracy theorys are in line with Mr. Michael Moore.

Ton of countries??? shows how much you know Dala. Here is a list of the Coalition of forces that are currently or have been involved in this Iraq War.




South Korea: 3,600 peak—600 current (9/08; deployed 5/03)
Romania: 730 peak—501 current (11/08; deployed 7/03)
El Salvador: 380 peak—200 current (8/08; deployed 8/03)
Czech Republic: 300 peak—17 current (8/08)
Azerbaijan: 250 peak—88 current (9/07)
Albania: 120 peak—240 current (8/08; deployed 4/03)
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 troops (8/08; deployed 6/05)
Ukraine: 1,650 peak-37 current (2/08; deployed 8/03)
Estonia: 40 troops (12/07; deployed 6/05)
Macedonia: 77 troops (9/08; deployed 7/03)
Moldova: 24 peak—20 current (10/08; deployed 9/03)
Bulgaria: 485 peak—155 current (11/08; deployed 5/03)
Singapore: 161 peak-1 current (6/07; deployed 12/03)
Tonga: 55 troops (deployed 7/04)
Latvia: 136 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Poland: 200 invasion—2,500 peak (withdrawn 10/08)
Kazakhstan: 29 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 10/08)
Armenia: 46 troops (deployed 1/05-withdrawn 10/08)
Mongolia: 180 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 09/08)
Georgia: 2,000 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/08)
Slovakia: 110 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Denmark: 545 peak (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Lithuania: 120 peak (deployed 6/03—withdrawn 08/07)
Italy: 3,200 peak (deployed 7/03—withdrawn 11/06)
Norway: 150 troops (deployed 7/03—withdrawn 8/06)
Japan: 600 troops (deployed 1/04—withdrawn 7/06)
Hungary: 300 troops (deployed 8/03—withdrawn 3/05)
Netherlands: 1,345 troops (deployed 7/03—withdrawn 3/05)
Portugal: 128 troops (deployed 11/03—withdrawn 2/05)
New Zealand: 61 troops (deployed 9/03—withdrawn 9/04)
Thailand: 423 troops (deployed 8/03—withdrawn 8/04)
Philippines: 51 troops (deployed 7/03—withdrawn 7/04)
Honduras: 368 troops (deployed 8/03—withdrawn 5/04)
Dominican Republic: 302 troops (withdrawn 5/04)
Spain: 1,300 troops (deployed 4/03—withdrawn 4/04)
Nicaragua: 230 troops (deployed 9/03—withdrawn 2/04)
Iceland: 2 troops (deployed 5/03—withdrawal date unknown)


Okay maybe 40 countries isnt a TON

Oh I got this from Wiki... or is that a conservative blog which should not be paid attention to?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_Forces

learn something why dont you.

[timmgirvan]

[quote=Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

this whole post is full of dangerous assumptions ESPECIALLY bolded sentence. Your conspiracy theorys are in line with Mr. Michael Moore.

Ton of countries??? shows how much you know Dala. Here is a list of the Coalition of forces that are currently or have been involved in this Iraq War.




South Korea: 3,600 peak—600 current (9/08; deployed 5/03)
Romania: 730 peak—501 current (11/08; deployed 7/03)
El Salvador: 380 peak—200 current (8/08; deployed 8/03)
Czech Republic: 300 peak—17 current (8/08)
Azerbaijan: 250 peak—88 current (9/07)
Albania: 120 peak—240 current (8/08; deployed 4/03)
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 troops (8/08; deployed 6/05)
Ukraine: 1,650 peak-37 current (2/08; deployed 8/03)
Estonia: 40 troops (12/07; deployed 6/05)
Macedonia: 77 troops (9/08; deployed 7/03)
Moldova: 24 peak—20 current (10/08; deployed 9/03)
Bulgaria: 485 peak—155 current (11/08; deployed 5/03)
Singapore: 161 peak-1 current (6/07; deployed 12/03)
Tonga: 55 troops (deployed 7/04)
Latvia: 136 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Poland: 200 invasion—2,500 peak (withdrawn 10/08)
Kazakhstan: 29 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 10/08)
Armenia: 46 troops (deployed 1/05-withdrawn 10/08)
Mongolia: 180 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 09/08)
Georgia: 2,000 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/08)
Slovakia: 110 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Denmark: 545 peak (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Lithuania: 120 peak (deployed 6/03—withdrawn 08/07)
Italy: 3,200 peak (deployed 7/03—withdrawn 11/06)
Norway: 150 troops (deployed 7/03—withdrawn 8/06)
Japan: 600 troops (deployed 1/04—withdrawn 7/06)
Hungary: 300 troops (deployed 8/03—withdrawn 3/05)
Netherlands: 1,345 troops (deployed 7/03—withdrawn 3/05)
Portugal: 128 troops (deployed 11/03—withdrawn 2/05)
New Zealand: 61 troops (deployed 9/03—withdrawn 9/04)
Thailand: 423 troops (deployed 8/03—withdrawn 8/04)
Philippines: 51 troops (deployed 7/03—withdrawn 7/04)
Honduras: 368 troops (deployed 8/03—withdrawn 5/04)
Dominican Republic: 302 troops (withdrawn 5/04)
Spain: 1,300 troops (deployed 4/03—withdrawn 4/04)
Nicaragua: 230 troops (deployed 9/03—withdrawn 2/04)
Iceland: 2 troops (deployed 5/03—withdrawal date unknown)


Okay maybe 40 countries isnt a TON

Oh I got this from Wiki... or is that a conservative blog which should not be paid attention to?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_Forces

learn something why dont you.

So comedy!

[Antitrust32]

[quote=timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

So comedy!

I just realized I forgot to add some:

United Kingdom: 45,000 invasion—4,100 current (9/08)
Australia: 2,000 invasion—~300 current (07/08)





But it was ALL a Bush lie huh? gimme a break dala.

[quote=Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I just realized I forgot to add some:

United Kingdom: 45,000 invasion—4,100 current (9/08)
Australia: 2,000 invasion—~300 current (07/08)





But it was ALL a Bush lie huh? gimme a break dala.

Perhaps the point she was trying to make is we (the US) is/was
very good at getting other countries to go along with us. We do
have a bit of pull. Not as much as we used to though.

[dalakhani]

[quote=Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

this whole post is full of dangerous assumptions ESPECIALLY bolded sentence. Your conspiracy theorys are in line with Mr. Michael Moore.

Ton of countries??? shows how much you know Dala. Here is a list of the Coalition of forces that are currently or have been involved in this Iraq War.




South Korea: 3,600 peak—600 current (9/08; deployed 5/03)
Romania: 730 peak—501 current (11/08; deployed 7/03)
El Salvador: 380 peak—200 current (8/08; deployed 8/03)
Czech Republic: 300 peak—17 current (8/08)
Azerbaijan: 250 peak—88 current (9/07)
Albania: 120 peak—240 current (8/08; deployed 4/03)
Bosnia and Herzegovina: 85 troops (8/08; deployed 6/05)
Ukraine: 1,650 peak-37 current (2/08; deployed 8/03)
Estonia: 40 troops (12/07; deployed 6/05)
Macedonia: 77 troops (9/08; deployed 7/03)
Moldova: 24 peak—20 current (10/08; deployed 9/03)
Bulgaria: 485 peak—155 current (11/08; deployed 5/03)
Singapore: 161 peak-1 current (6/07; deployed 12/03)
Tonga: 55 troops (deployed 7/04)
Latvia: 136 peak (deployed 5/03-withdrawn 11/08)
Poland: 200 invasion—2,500 peak (withdrawn 10/08)
Kazakhstan: 29 troops (deployed 9/03-withdrawn 10/08)
Armenia: 46 troops (deployed 1/05-withdrawn 10/08)
Mongolia: 180 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 09/08)
Georgia: 2,000 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 8/08)
Slovakia: 110 peak (deployed 8/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Denmark: 545 peak (deployed 4/03-withdrawn 12/07)
Lithuania: 120 peak (deployed 6/03—withdrawn 08/07)
Italy: 3,200 peak (deployed 7/03—withdrawn 11/06)
Norway: 150 troops (deployed 7/03—withdrawn 8/06)
Japan: 600 troops (deployed 1/04—withdrawn 7/06)
Hungary: 300 troops (deployed 8/03—withdrawn 3/05)
Netherlands: 1,345 troops (deployed 7/03—withdrawn 3/05)
Portugal: 128 troops (deployed 11/03—withdrawn 2/05)
New Zealand: 61 troops (deployed 9/03—withdrawn 9/04)
Thailand: 423 troops (deployed 8/03—withdrawn 8/04)
Philippines: 51 troops (deployed 7/03—withdrawn 7/04)
Honduras: 368 troops (deployed 8/03—withdrawn 5/04)
Dominican Republic: 302 troops (withdrawn 5/04)
Spain: 1,300 troops (deployed 4/03—withdrawn 4/04)
Nicaragua: 230 troops (deployed 9/03—withdrawn 2/04)
Iceland: 2 troops (deployed 5/03—withdrawal date unknown)


Okay maybe 40 countries isnt a TON

Oh I got this from Wiki... or is that a conservative blog which should not be paid attention to?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_Forces

learn something why dont you.

Okay, go through your post. YOu list Iceland with 2 troops. Khazakstan with 29 troops? Look at the list. Are you kidding me?

Yes, the support was overwhelming.

[Antitrust32]

[quote=dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Okay, go through your post. YOu list Iceland with 2 troops. Khazakstan with 29 troops? Look at the list. Are you kidding me?

Yes, the support was overwhelming.

REALLY DALA? wow. go ahead and subtract those two out of the list if it makes you happy. you really cant handle being proven wrong on a point can you?

Did you help write Fehrenheit 9/11??

[dalakhani]

[quote=Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

REALLY DALA? wow. go ahead and subtract those two out of the list if it makes you happy. you really cant handle being proven wrong on a point can you?

Did you help write Fehrenheit 9/11??

Im sure Iceland and El Salvador had their own "intelligence" over there as you claim.

All, or most, of the those countries rely on the US in some form of aid, trade or military. Do you think that might have had something to do with the "support"?