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Old 11-13-2008, 02:10 PM
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While he's accurate in his assessments of what ails the auto industry (union labor has CRUSHED autos & airlines), I'm shocked you read this guy- he's the most conservative right out there in national print.
If you dont read the other sides views you can never hope to enlighten yourself enough to become anything but partisan. The sad but true part of the piece is that politics are going to continue to hamper any economic recovery. Whether it is right or wrong Obama's presidency is going to be judged by how he muddles through this economic mess while holding party lines and keeping his far left base and allies like labor unions and trial lawyers happy. If he can accomplish this he really is the messiah.
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:40 PM
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If you dont read the other sides views you can never hope to enlighten yourself enough to become anything but partisan. The sad but true part of the piece is that politics are going to continue to hamper any economic recovery. Whether it is right or wrong Obama's presidency is going to be judged by how he muddles through this economic mess while holding party lines and keeping his far left base and allies like labor unions and trial lawyers happy. If he can accomplish this he really is the messiah.
Agreed. You need perspective of all the sides.
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:40 PM
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the people wanting the autos bailed out are driving lexuses and toyota's and bmers' - what is going on here folks?
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:47 PM
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the people wanting the autos bailed out are driving lexuses and toyota's and bmers' - what is going on here folks?
Thats a pretty blanket generalization isnt it?
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:57 PM
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there is a reason why the big 3 , or just the big 2 now are failing , why pump gov't money into an industry where we have lost our competitive advantage??
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Old 11-13-2008, 02:59 PM
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the people wanting the autos bailed out are driving lexuses and toyota's and bmers' - what is going on here folks?
i don't think that's true.

i drive a foreign car but i don't want the autos bailed out- they made their bed, now sleep in it. enough of the bailouts due to poor decisionmaking.
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:03 PM
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i don't think that's true.

i drive a foreign car but i don't want the autos bailed out- they made their bed, now sleep in it. enough of the bailouts due to poor decisionmaking.

i agree , but a lot of dems want the autos saved , but , what is the reason
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:01 PM
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Let them fail.

Let nature run its course.....it would be the best thing believe it or not.
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:03 PM
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Let them fail.

Let nature run its course.....it would be the best thing believe it or not.
Predator style my friend, predator style
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:04 PM
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I was told by an unreliable source that the big 3 are indirectly responsible for 10% of the workforce in the U.S.
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:09 PM
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Predator style my friend, predator style
......morty is 100% correct.
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:11 PM
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dying industry should not get gov't aid , these co's have cost structures that are no longer vialble , why should the taxpayer spend money to bail out an industry that is going to fail
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:13 PM
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......morty is 100% correct.
I heard someone say this on CNN last night also...I don't know the right answer
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:18 PM
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if they fail , more foreign compt s/b allowed to come in and build plants and give jobs to americans here who need them

the gravy train days of workin at the big 3 are over as long as americans want auto from japan and europe
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Old 11-13-2008, 03:33 PM
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if they fail , more foreign compt s/b allowed to come in and build plants and give jobs to americans here who need them

the gravy train days of workin at the big 3 are over as long as americans want auto from japan and europe
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Old 11-13-2008, 05:52 PM
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i wonder if the union is what's pushing obama and the dems to try to rescue the big three? unions always give a great amount of money to the dems-and dems generally support them right back. a lot of jobs, a lot of union funds go out the window if the big three go tits up.
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:09 PM
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i wonder if the union is what's pushing obama and the dems to try to rescue the big three? unions always give a great amount of money to the dems-and dems generally support them right back. a lot of jobs, a lot of union funds go out the window if the big three go tits up.
Fine point.

Following the money is so revealing.
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