Singletary pulls down his pants

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Fair enough, maybe the guy is a malcontent and he doesn't care about the team. Maybe Singletary is also taking a crack at one of the bigger/better names on the roster to serve notice to the rest of the squad.

As far as the other question goes, I think the majority of the players care. There is so much dedication that surrounds football, that I would think it would be hard not to care. But there is a handful of guys (and maybe Davis falls into this category) that don't give a damn about anything besides themselves. In the last couple of weeks I have seen Plaxico Burress, sign a very big contract and then miss a practice, a treatment and pretty much tell the Head Coach to go F himself. This while playing for a champion team who has a good shot a repeating. Pretty selfish, he bitched about a contract for the last 2 years and finally gets it. Then he starts pulling crap. I am sure there are many others.

Basically, nothing suprises me with these guys. They make lots of money and a couple of them constantly do stupid $hit on and off the field.

that's why the steelers got rid of that piece of crap. personally, i'd like to see guys like burress, k. winslow, c. henry and pacman jones run out of the league.
a lot of the problem is those BIG rookie contracts. vernon davis is prime example, #6 overall pick.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

that's why the steelers got rid of that piece of crap. personally, i'd like to see guys like burress, k. winslow, c. henry and pacman jones run out of the league.
a lot of the problem is those BIG rookie contracts. vernon davis is prime example, #6 overall pick.

Obviously I am extremely biased. But Plax did play hurt all of last season, not to mention his huge game in GB when he was unstoppable. I don't condone what he has pulled this season, but I think the guy is a stud. I really believe that he is a top 5 reciever in the leauge. I just wish he would put his head on straight and get onboard with the rest of the team. There was talk this week of him starting to see the light, let's hope he does.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Obviously I am extremely biased. But Plax did play hurt all of last season, not to mention his huge game in GB when he was unstoppable. I don't condone what he has pulled this season, but I think the guy is a stud. I really believe that he is a top 5 reciever in the leauge. I just wish he would put his head on straight and get onboard with the rest of the team. There was talk this week of him starting to see the light, let's hope he does.

the guy has talent no question, when his head's not up his rear-end.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

that's why the steelers got rid of that piece of crap. personally, i'd like to see guys like burress, k. winslow, c. henry and pacman jones run out of the league.
a lot of the problem is those BIG rookie contracts. vernon davis is prime example, #6 overall pick.

How can you compare Burress and winslow with henry and pacman?

Neither Winslow nor Burress have ever had problems with drugs or major scrapes with the law. Theyve had their issues, internal team issues, but hardly stuff that would label either of them bad guys. If I had a team, I would take both of those guys.

For the record, the steelers didnt get rid of Plax and they would have loved to have kept him. They just couldnt pay him.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

How can you compare Burress and winslow with henry and pacman?

Neither Winslow nor Burress have ever had problems with drugs or major scrapes with the law. Theyve had their issues, internal team issues, but hardly stuff that would label either of them bad guys. If I had a team, I would take both of those guys.

For the record, the steelers didnt get rid of Plax and they would have loved to have kept him. They just couldnt pay him.

the steelers wouldn't pay and he opted out. they were sick of his crap. winslow and burress both have had run ins with the law. winslow had the motorcycle crashed with no license or registration AND violated his contract.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

the steelers wouldn't pay and he opted out. they were sick of his crap. winslow and burress both have had run ins with the law. winslow had the motorcycle crashed with no license or registration AND violated his contract.

He's a kid. Crashed a motorcycle with no license? Come on. Winslow is a good kid. He's opinionated and can be a distraction but he is a good kid.

Same with Burress.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

He's a kid. Crashed a motorcycle with no license? Come on. Winslow is a good kid. He's opinionated and can be a distraction but he is a good kid.

Same with Burress.

Really? He seems like an arrogant spoiled whiny self-entitled little prick to me.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Really? He seems like an arrogant spoiled whiny self-entitled little prick to me.

BINGO! he can't carry his father's bags! and done nothing in the nfl. hard to believe his father puts up with it.

[Cannon Shell]

After watching Georgia i want to pull my pants down

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Really? He seems like an arrogant spoiled whiny self-entitled little prick to me.

Those are flaws in personality...not charcter.

Im not saying he is mr wonderful but DD was comparing him to Pacman and thats an unfair characterization.

Maybe he's an ******* but he isnt going to use dope or get in trouble with the law.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Those are flaws in personality...not charcter.

Im not saying he is mr wonderful but DD was comparing him to Pacman and thats an unfair characterization.

Maybe he's an ******* but he isnt going to use dope or get in trouble with the law.

Point taken.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

For the record, the steelers didnt get rid of Plax and they would have loved to have kept him. They just couldnt pay him.

This isn't exactly true. They made him a low ball offer that if he accepted, they would have been happy to keep him. In reality, they would not pay what he demanded because his character issues and potential for problems were not worth the risk.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by 3kings

This isn't exactly true. They made him a low ball offer that if he accepted, they would have been happy to keep him. In reality, they would not pay what he demanded because his character issues and potential were not worth the risk.

Im sorry but your facts are wrong. They would not pay what he demanded because they had to pay ward as well who was a year away from free agency. The steelers werent going to pay two receivers that kind of money.

Essentially it came down to a choice between ward and burress and they chose ward. The right choice.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Im sorry but your facts are wrong. They would not pay what he demanded because they had to pay ward as well who was a year away from free agency. The steelers werent going to pay two receivers that kind of money.

Essentially it came down to a choice between ward and burress and they chose ward. The right choice.

One of the major reasons they chose Ward were the character issues. They signed Ward the year before Plax could become a FA because they were more comfortable with his character. At that time Plax appeared to have the larger upside.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by 3kings

One of the major reasons they chose Ward were the character issues. They signed Ward the year before Plax could become a FA because they were more comfortable with his character. At that time Plax appeared to have the larger upside.

Again your facts are wrong. They didnt sign ward's extension until a year AFTER Burress had left.

They signed Ward because he was the best run blocking receiver in the NFL and the Steelers were the most prolific running team. They signed ward because he was more productive than Plax. Its as simple as that.

If he had such character issues, the steelers wouldnt re-sign him at ANY price.

Here are Plaxicos stats:

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...B/BurrPl00.htm

Here are Wards stats:

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...Hi00.htm?redir

Notice the years both were in Pitt. Ward was just much more productive not to mention a better blocker.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Again your facts are wrong. They didnt sign ward's extension until a year AFTER Burress had left.

They signed Ward because he was the best run blocking receiver in the NFL and the Steelers were the most prolific running team. They signed ward because he was more productive than Plax. Its as simple as that.

If he had such character issues, the steelers wouldnt re-sign him at ANY price.

Sorry I questioned you Coach Cowher, I'll move on since you know exactly what happened.

[Mortimer]

"You can believe me or not but the descision was made in the Summer of 2004 to keep Ward and only resign Plaxico if they could get him at below market value."

Is this not a way of saying....we don't want you?


Although I know a ton of players do sign for below market value.