LeBron James..OVERRATED

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Best athlete in the NBA... possibly ever.

Needs a consistent jump shot and foul shot.
His instincts have improved.

He will be the best.
Even though he is nowhere near the basketball player
Kobe, Duncan, Michael, or Bird, are/were.
Agree with Mortunses on the 3's. But all he needs is a decent
jumper and the hole will be wide open.

Nowhere near? What do you base that opinion on? Certainly not stats.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Nowhere near? What do you base that opinion on? Certainly not stats.

Ability to see the floor.
Hands, leadership, feeling the pace of the game
and adjusting accordingly.
Anticipation on defense and positioning.

no not stats. Worthless pile o crap in many cases.
in baskeball one plays with other people.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Ability to see the floor.
Hands, leadership, feeling the pace of the game
and adjusting accordingly.
Anticipation on defense and positioning.

no not stats. Worthless pile o crap in many cases.
in baskeball one plays with other people.

I get it. "intangibles". Thats like arguing about God.

Are you going to tell me that Larry Bird was a better defender than Lebron at any stage of his entire life? Or even close?

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I get it. "intangibles". Thats like arguing about God.

Are you going to tell me that Larry Bird was a better defender than Lebron at any stage of his entire life? Or even close?

Intangibles my ass.
You tell me who has better hands at Center/PowerForward than Tim Duncan.
You tell me who sees the floor better than Steve Nash...

Intangibles...
get a clue and watch some games.

Birds hands made him a much better defender
than anyone with his lack of footspeed could ever have had.
Birds ability to snag bad passes and still get off perfectly
fluid shots was amazing.

WTF is an intangible?
He plays well on a Parkay floor?
You attempt to mimmick silly sport caster that have no idea how to watch a game.

[Mortimer]

I am glad we are disrobing His Highness.



That's possibly James' biggest drawback.....it affects a lot of things for him. That's what I think anyhoo.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Intangibles my ass.
You tell me who has better hands at Center/PowerForward than Tim Duncan.
You tell me who sees the floor better than Steve Nash...

Intangibles...
get a clue and watch some games.

Birds hands made him a much better defender
than anyone with his lack of footspeed could ever have had.
Birds ability to snag bad passes and still get off perfectly
fluid shots was amazing.

WTF is an intangible?
He plays well on a Parkay floor?
You attempt to mimmick silly sport caster that have no idea how to watch a game.

Remember, you started this.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Remember, you started this.

I happen to adore basketball.
My bad for being too passionate.

The day I see Lebron James block out
Big Ig's man by getting his butt into the legs
I will chant a basketball mantra.

You have to know what others on your team can
an cannot do. When I see Lebron sprinting down the
floor while slow as dried mud Ig is battling a guy Lebron
was right next to for a rebound... Its sickening sometimes.

And I did not start anything.
Look back and see who responded to my player thread.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I happen to adore basketball.
My bad for being too passionate.

The day I see Lebron James block out
Big Ig's man by getting his butt into the legs
I will chant a basketball mantra.

You have to know what others on your team can
an cannot do. When I see Lebron sprinting down the
floor while slow as dried mud Ig is battling a guy Lebron
was right next to for a rebound... Its sickening sometimes.

Fair enough...i get passionate myself sometime.

You are characterizing Lebron as some sort of pretty boy when i dont think that is the case. Remember, he isnt a big. He is a smalll forward. The reason bird was underneath the basket so much is because he was too slow to guard the other team's three so most of the time he would draw the 4.

But im sure you knew that.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Intangibles my ass.
You tell me who has better hands at Center/PowerForward than Tim Duncan.
You tell me who sees the floor better than Steve Nash...

Intangibles...
get a clue and watch some games.

Birds hands made him a much better defender
than anyone with his lack of footspeed could ever have had.
Birds ability to snag bad passes and still get off perfectly
fluid shots was amazing.

WTF is an intangible?
He plays well on a Parkay floor?
You attempt to mimmick silly sport caster that have no idea how to watch a game.

Why so angry?

LOL.

Larry Bird was a defensive liability and anyone from his era would say the same thing. Yeah, hands made him a good defender. LOL

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Why so angry?

LOL.

Larry Bird was a defensive liability and anyone from his era would say the same thing. Yeah, hands made him a good defender. LOL

His hands made a better defender than anyone with his lack of speed could possibly have. Remember the people he played with were superior defenders. Hard to look great defending on a team that contained Dennis Johnson, Robert Parrish, Kevin McHale... those were all very good defenders.

And I am from his era. I watched all Birds college games when they finally started televising him (Indiana St. was not a big draw). And I hated his guts because of his mouth.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

His hands made a better defender than anyone with his lack of speed could possibly have. Remember the people he played with were superior defenders. Hard to look great defending on a team that contained Dennis Johnson, Robert Parrish, Kevin McHale... those were all very good defenders.

And I am from his era. I watched all Birds college games when they finally started televising him (Indiana St. was not a big draw). And I hated his guts because of his mouth.

I watched Bird plenty of times. That whole "hands" thing was created by the Boston media because Bird was the great white hope and there couldnt be any flaws in this basketball genius.

Bird was a great player, one of the all time greats for sure and no one would argue that. But defensively?

He was a liability. Anyone knows that "hands" can't make you a good defender. You dont defend with your hands, you defend with your feet. He was too slow to guard the other team's 3 and they put cornbread and then later 7 foot kevin mchale on the other team's small forward because Bird would get lit up every time he was on the perimeter.

With the Three point line moved in and the game being much faster today, Bird would be really difficult to hide.