Now I Have Zero Respect Left for Shirreffs

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Curlin proved he was a length better than Past the Point and wandering boy and a few better than Einstein on the dirt. Those are probably the weakest editions of those races in years. Zenyatta beat nobodies all year except at Oaklawn and the Distaff. Big browns crop wasnt good but he won 2/3rds of the TC pretty handily, easily won the FL derby , was not impressive despite winning the Haskell and beat older horses on a second surface. As a matter of fact I dont think one of Curlins foes on the Dirt all year showed up in a BC race.

Curlin did win the World Cup & Foster.....I guess it's BB's Belmont that still bothers me.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Curlin did win the World Cup & Foster.....I guess it's BB's Belmont that still bothers me.

The World Cup isnt a North American race
The Foster was a joke

It wasn't much of a year for North American racing. It's like winning Most Popular in a Home School.

[dylbert]

Curlin is HOTY. He could not enter Ladies Classic. Zenyatta could have entered Classic, outrun Raven's Pass, and claim HOTY honors, but did not choose that path.

This is somewhat like BCS college football debate (or as some would say, debacle). There is no playoff system in horse racing either. Horses compete, and avoid, each other throughout calendar year. Therefore, let's encourage Curlin, Zenyatta, and Raven's Pass to all enter Clark at Churchill Downs next month. If Zenyatta and Raven's Pass aren't "surface specialists", their connections should not fear challenging Curlin on his preferred surface, dirt.

Other suggestions, thoughts, or ideas?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dylbert

Curlin is HOTY. He could not enter Ladies Classic. Zenyatta could have entered Classic, outrun Raven's Pass, and claim HOTY honors, but did not choose that path.

This is somewhat like BCS college football debate (or as some would say, debacle). There is no playoff system in horse racing either. Horses compete, and avoid, each other throughout calendar year. Therefore, let's encourage Curlin, Zenyatta, and Raven's Pass to all enter Clark at Churchill Downs next month. If Zenyatta and Raven's Pass aren't "surface specialists", their connections should not fear challenging Curlin on his preferred surface, dirt.

Other suggestions, thoughts, or ideas?

Curlin won three weak dirt races and finished off the board despite leading in the stretch in his last race. Would you vote Notre Dame number one too?