Santa Anita Surface for the BC

[The Bid]

Curlin would have won anywhere with a natural dirt surface

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Curlin would have won anywhere with a natural dirt surface

No way. 10f at ctown is three sharp turns and speed is king. Curlin would have been toast.

[The Bid]

Wouldnt Ctown be 4 turns for a mile and a quarter? Where would they start that race

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Wouldnt Ctown be 4 turns for a mile and a quarter? Where would they start that race

IN the chute

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Curlin would have won anywhere with a natural dirt surface

I have no idea how a horse who blew past the entire field, gained a length lead into the stretch, can use the "he didnt handle the surface".

Horses who dont handle the surface dont make that move.

How about he was not quite as good as he was 9-12 months ago, made a premature move on a tiring surface and then flattened out getting beat by horses with some quality to them.

[alysheba4]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I have no idea how a horse who blew past the entire field, gained a length lead into the stretch, can use the "he didnt handle the surface".

Horses who dont handle the surface dont make that move.

How about he was not quite as good as he was 9-12 months ago, made a premature move on a tiring surface and then flattened out getting beat by horses with some quality to them.

....really, the 2 horses that blew by curlin were grade 1 quality well bred horses......some people just cant deal with the fact that since the d.w.c curlin hasnt been that special.

[slotdirt]

Hmmm, 10f at Charles Town...six furlong track, the chute is for 4.5f, well dang, I wonder how the hell they would run a mile and a quarter at that joint?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Hmmm, 10f at Charles Town...six furlong track, the chute is for 4.5f, well dang, I wonder how the hell they would run a mile and a quarter at that joint?

They'd have to start here in Roanoke.

[The Bid]

Im not saying the top 2 arent very good horses, Im just sayin those top two arent top 2 on conventional dirt.

Yes, Tiago can suck up on any surface. Thats what he is, a career garbage collector. I dont care what Ragozines say, or Jerry Brown, or Beyer, he is what he is...a suckup

I do agree that the top 2 pedigrees arent the typical Euro and you can certainly make an argument they may not be horrible on the dirt. That being said I dont think either beat Curlin on dirt. As for Tiago he doesnt sniff Curlins tail on dirt

[slotdirt]

Forget down the hillside, GPK, they'd need to go down the interstate.