Breeders' Cup; some thoughts

[Hwjb]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Nice, a guy from England using French racing as his defense. How many of these races have a million dollar purse let alone $25 million over the two days?
Not to mention that swamp that they run over.

Being English I'm unable to appreciate the merits of a French meeting, is that what you mean? That's sound logic.
Historical cache vs multi-million purses? You'd have Dubai World Cup day as the best meeting of the year I assume?
How did the track go down at Monmouth last year? At least with this turf, you don't have to go replacing and relaying it all the time.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Hwjb

Being English I'm unable to appreciate the merits of a French meeting, is that what you mean? That's sound logic.
Historical cache vs multi-million purses? You'd have Dubai World Cup day as the best meeting of the year I assume?
How did the track go down at Monmouth last year? At least with this turf, you don't have to go replacing and relaying it all the time.

Listen you said that you had an event similar to the breeders Cup. You dont. The races you mentioned are nice races but hardly the equal of the Breeders Cup especially in terms of monetary value. You yourself noted that you did not know much about the participants yet managed to rundown each race and the event as a whole. The Dubai World Cup is a pretty good meeting no?

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Listen you said that you had an event similar to the breeders Cup. You dont. The races you mentioned are nice races but hardly the equal of the Breeders Cup especially in terms of monetary value. You yourself noted that you did not know much about the participants yet managed to rundown each race and the event as a whole. The Dubai World Cup is a pretty good meeting no?

Nice races?!? Are you really that ignorant? Newsflash - most owners across the Atlantic don't care about the Breeders' Cup; they care about winning the Arc, or the Abbaye, or the Moulin, which have pretty good purses, too. If they come to the BC, it is usually as an afterthought, or as a means of redemption for a poor run (didn't win the prestige race, go for the cash). Sometimes a sportsman sends his/her top-class horse to run, but previous experience has shown that which horses adapt to US conditions is a bit of a lottery and some don't care to take the chance since it cannot improve the horses' standing.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Nice races?!? Are you really that ignorant? Newsflash - most owners across the Atlantic don't care about the Breeders' Cup; they care about winning the Arc, or the Abbaye, or the Moulin, which have pretty good purses, too. If they come to the BC, it is usually as an afterthought, or as a means of redemption for a poor run (didn't win the prestige race, go for the cash). Sometimes a sportsman sends his/her top-class horse to run, but previous experience has shown that which horses adapt to US conditions is a bit of a lottery and some don't care to take the chance since it cannot improve the horses' standing.

If you stay on topic, this thread was about Europe having an event similar to the BC...nothing else. And they don't...neither in variety of surfaces and distances and ages nor cumilative purse values over a two day period. Obviously all those Europe races mentioned are nice, prestigeous, valuable, etc, etc races..but they are just that...individual races. And we'll see how much of an "afterthought" it is next year when they realize their turf only horses may be better off in the Classic than in one of their "nice" races.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Nice races?!? Are you really that ignorant? Newsflash - most owners across the Atlantic don't care about the Breeders' Cup; they care about winning the Arc, or the Abbaye, or the Moulin, which have pretty good purses, too. If they come to the BC, it is usually as an afterthought, or as a means of redemption for a poor run (didn't win the prestige race, go for the cash). Sometimes a sportsman sends his/her top-class horse to run, but previous experience has shown that which horses adapt to US conditions is a bit of a lottery and some don't care to take the chance since it cannot improve the horses' standing.

I may be ignorant but I posed a question to the Englishman and his response was this weekend of races was the European version of the breeders Cup which it most certainly is not. Perhaps if you got off your high horse and actully followed along with the thread you would see what we were talking about. Newsflash the Arc weekend is not that similar to the Breeders Cup despite the prestige or purses of a couple of the races.

[blackthroatedwind]

Connections must have been particularly excited by how both runnings of this year's Prix de L'Abbaye played out. If the BC had a disaster like that there would be 5000 internet threads about it......and 50,000 if it happened at a NYRA track. Fine job they did with that race.