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Old 10-25-2008, 09:23 PM
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Are you sure it was 3 seconds faster? What is a normal track nowadays anyway??
Not the one they ran over today or yesterday
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:29 PM
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Not the one they ran over today or yesterday
Was it a normal track earlier this year when Bob Black Jack set the 6f record?
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:42 PM
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Was it a normal track earlier this year when Bob Black Jack set the 6f record?
No that is a joke too. If you want to believe that the tracks at Santa Anita are normal or have any relation to what has been run over for the last 100 or so years fine. I am not a synthetic track hater either but thinking that any track or stakes records set at Santa Anita this year has much validity is silly.
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:57 PM
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It's a third surface. How can it be compared to past SA records?
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Old 10-25-2008, 09:59 PM
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It's a third surface. How can it be compared to past SA records?
good question.

my big question was how do these graded races they've been having retain their status? one requirement of keeping their status is that the conditions be the same from year to year, that obviously is no longer the case on tracks with AWT surfaces.
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:04 PM
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good question.

my big question was how do these graded races they've been having retain their status? one requirement of keeping their status is that the conditions be the same from year to year, that obviously is no longer the case on tracks with AWT surfaces.
So when a track decides to re-installed its turf/sod, which numerous tracks have done over the years, should they lose their Graded status as well?
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:18 PM
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So when a track decides to re-installed its turf/sod, which numerous tracks have done over the years, should they lose their Graded status as well?
you're not seriously trying to compare replacing grass with grass, with removing dirt and installing wax, sand and rubber?
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:35 PM
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good question.

my big question was how do these graded races they've been having retain their status? one requirement of keeping their status is that the conditions be the same from year to year, that obviously is no longer the case on tracks with AWT surfaces.
track surfaces changes dont merit a downgrade I believe
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track surfaces changes dont merit a downgrade I believe
i just think that if a race can lose it's graded status when a race is moved from turf to main for instance, that the argument could be made about changing from dirt to awt. it doesn't matter tho, it won't happen.
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:01 PM
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No that is a joke too. If you want to believe that the tracks at Santa Anita are normal or have any relation to what has been run over for the last 100 or so years fine. I am not a synthetic track hater either but thinking that any track or stakes records set at Santa Anita this year has much validity is silly.
Worrying about track records or final times, is silly IMO.
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Worrying about track records or final times, is silly IMO.

yeah there are scarier things to worry about, say for instance Tony Reyes
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:07 PM
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yeah there are scarier things to worry about, say for instance Tony Reyes
None of my competitors scare me.... I am more scared of driving in the snow/ice.
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:12 PM
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None of my competitors scare me.... I am more scared of driving in the snow/ice.
yikes being in Cali I thought you wouldnt have to deal with that weather hassle. So how did you make out today with the horsies
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Old 10-25-2008, 10:37 PM
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Worrying about track records or final times, is silly IMO.
worrying about and not recognizing arent really the same thing. If the times are so unimportant then why do we bother keeping them?
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At least the times and splits were correct, and not triggered by outriders.
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worrying about and not recognizing arent really the same thing. If the times are so unimportant then why do we bother keeping them?
For those people who get off on seeing them...
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