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Old 10-22-2008, 08:11 PM
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Lock-Zenyatta
Toss-Pyro(Though they did the smart thing staying away from the classic)
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:24 PM
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Lock-Zenyatta
I know this is the conventional wisdom, but I don't really understand how anybody that watched the Spinster could think Zenyatta is a lock. She is the most likely winner to be sure, but McGaughey's mare seems like she loves two-turns on the synthetic.
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Old 10-22-2008, 09:42 PM
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I know this is the conventional wisdom, but I don't really understand how anybody that watched the Spinster could think Zenyatta is a lock. She is the most likely winner to be sure, but McGaughey's mare seems like she loves two-turns on the synthetic.
Great point, I loved Carriage Trail's Spinster, but I still think Zenyatta will be too much for this group.
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Old 10-22-2008, 10:35 PM
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Zenyatta has only faced 1 or 2 good horses a race in each of her wins. She's never faced 4 or 5 good horses at the same time. It will be a test for sure....
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Old 10-23-2008, 03:55 PM
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Zenyatta has only faced 1 or 2 good horses a race in each of her wins. She's never faced 4 or 5 good horses at the same time. It will be a test for sure....
....and who has....she runs here best and its a public workout AGAIN.
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Old 10-23-2008, 04:08 PM
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Zenyatta is the only one I see as a lock. Horses that I'd toss that may go off at under 5/1:

Intangaroo, Ginger Punch, Albertus Maximus, Munnings, Cost of Freedom
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Old 10-22-2008, 10:57 PM
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I'm in no hurry to bet a horse at 3-5 and will only bet the race in picks if I play, but what does this mean? Do you think another "good" horse or two in any of her races would have mattered? She has destroyed everything out there on any surface she has stepped foot on.
Zenyatta is the Big Brown of the girls it sounds like.
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:12 PM
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Zenyatta is the Big Brown of the girls it sounds like.
Dude, you make pg1985 sound like the love child of DrugS and Julie Krone.

I'm not even sure what I mean by that, but man.
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:21 PM
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Dude, you make pg1985 sound like the love child of DrugS and Julie Krone.

I'm not even sure what I mean by that, but man.
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:03 PM
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She would have smoked Big Brown.
Would Zenyatta have smoked Eight Belles? My opinion is it would have been very close.
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:00 PM
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I'm in no hurry to bet a horse at 3-5 and will only bet the race in picks if I play, but what does this mean? Do you think another "good" horse or two in any of her races would have mattered? She has destroyed everything out there on any surface she has stepped foot on.
Well yeah. It's easy to have an off day. Ginger Punch is better than what she showed at Oaklawn. Hystericalady is a few lengths slower on synth. Who else has she beat....Model? Romance is Diane? Tough Tiz's Sis? Tough Tiz's Sis did win by a lot in her next race, but then again she could have just freaked in the slop.
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:02 PM
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With Music Note, Carriage Trail, and Cocoa Beach in there, I get the feeling at least one of them will come up with their best race ever.
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:22 PM
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She's beat every horse she's faced and done it convincingly. She traveled across the country to run on a surface she hadn't been on before and beat Ginger Punch. I just don't see the knocks. Nowadays more crappy horses get undeserved accolades. She deserves any accolades she gets and more IMO. She's something special. I can see trying to beat a favorite, I get it. But even if one of the 3 horses you mention do throw a lifetime best, I don't think it'll be enough.
No doubt Zenyatta has a GREAT record in 2008. Do you think if Curlin gets beat, then Zenyatta wins HOY?
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:40 PM
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She's beat every horse she's faced and done it convincingly. She traveled across the country to run on a surface she hadn't been on before and beat Ginger Punch. I just don't see the knocks. Nowadays more crappy horses get undeserved accolades. She deserves any accolades she gets and more IMO. She's something special. I can see trying to beat a favorite, I get it. But even if one of the 3 horses you mention do throw a lifetime best, I don't think it'll be enough.
The only unknown in the race is if Music Note moves up on this track, if she does she might make a race of it.
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