'Kill him'?

[Danzig]

well..i don't think a racist or crazy can be made more so just because a pol has a rally. by the same token, i wouldn't want support from a nut or a racist. but mccain wants to be voted in about as badly as a person could want anything. he said the gloves would come off, and he's right.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

well..i don't think a racist or crazy can be made more so just because a pol has a rally. by the same token, i wouldn't want support from a nut or a racist. but mccain wants to be voted in about as badly as a person could want anything. he said the gloves would come off, and he's right.

McCain and Palin are egging them on instead of denouncing them. It's dangerous territory.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

McCain and Palin are egging them on instead of denouncing them. It's dangerous territory.

are there any links?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

are there any links?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...a-a-terrorist/

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the..._the_roug.html

To be fair, McCain's campaign released a statement saying it "does not condone the inappropriate rhetoric," but that's pretty vague..

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

McCain and Palin are egging them on instead of denouncing them. It's dangerous territory.

they apparently feel they have nothing to lose. it's a shame-but tells you more than you may have already known about them.

i tell you what else is a shame. this is a huge choice imo. so, a couple of rushed debates with limited time to answer, and only the two candidates. wonderful. glad that we go all out to elect a leader. i think everyone should vote for a third party candidate, that would get a lot of attention if barr or nader could get more than a blip on the screen, wouldn't it?

[Danzig]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100602935.html

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

they apparently feel they have nothing to lose. it's a shame-but tells you more than you may have already known about them.

i tell you what else is a shame. this is a huge choice imo. so, a couple of rushed debates with limited time to answer, and only the two candidates. wonderful. glad that we go all out to elect a leader. i think everyone should vote for a third party candidate, that would get a lot of attention if barr or nader could get more than a blip on the screen, wouldn't it?

That's quite the uphill battle, but I agree. Nader's an ass though, I'd vote for Barr or Ron Paul before him.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

That's quite the uphill battle, but I agree. Nader's an ass though, so I'd rather vote for Barr.

yes, it is a battle. but the two party system is obviously not working. and apparently, after taking one of those 'who should i vote for' quizzes, bob barr is my man. i doubt i could even pick the guy out of a lineup. but i think that's who i'm going to vote for. neither obama or mccain are worthy of my vote imo.

people should not view a third party candidate vote as a wasted vote. if enough did it, it would add up. might not get the guy elected, but it could certainly sound an alarm i would think.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

I don't know what I want over first, the Breeder's Cup or this election.

[herkhorse]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itEucdhf4Us

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

I don't know what I want over first, the Breeder's Cup or this election.

I just can't wait to see how Zito is going to prep Commentator for the 2010 Breeders Cup.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

McCain and Palin are egging them on instead of denouncing them. It's dangerous territory.

It's dangerous territory if morons react to it and riot. They will be shot.

[somerfrost]

I've said from the beginning that only racism could defeat Obama this election, not saying all McCain supporters are racist, of course not, but with the economy in the toilet and having more and more crap dropped on it every day, an unpopular war and the undeniable links between Bush and McCain...how could McCain win??? The good news, most folks who are racist have long since committed to McCain (hell, they'd line up to vote for George Wallace) so this demagoguery should backfire on McCain/Palin by turning off the undecided folks. I expected McCain to play the race card at some point...hell, he voted against Martin Luther King Day and removing the Confederate flag from the S Carolina capital building...frankly speaking, I don't trust the man regarding racial issues! Palin...she's a mindless attack dog, which I guess makes her an ideal VP candidate for the Republicans...she winks at the camera and cracks jokes. Obama hopefully will call McCain on this rhetoric...and yes, one does share in the responsibility for such crap...perhaps not legally, but certainly morally! Inciting violence, racial hatred, perhaps even worse isn't anywhere in the Constitution...this is vile and hardly the "good judgement" that McCain keeps claiming to possess! I attended a George Wallace rally in Hagerstown , MD way back when...he never directly attacked black folks, he left it to his audience but the message was clear...this is the same crap!!!

[MaTH716]

For anyone who is endorsing Obama. Do you have any questions or at least a little intrigued about his ties in the past? Whether it is Ayers or Wright or anyone else that is being dug up. What are you feelings on the issue?
Any questions about why all his college transcripts are closed?
John Edwards had an affair, and it seems that he has disappeared from the face of the Earth. But you have a guy who is weeks away from being President with some sort of link/ties to a terrorist and a racist minister. Does it intrigue you at least a little bit?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

For anyone who is endorsing Obama. Do you have any questions or at least a little intrigued about his ties in the past? Whether it is Ayers or Wright or anyone else that is being dug up. What are you feelings on the issue?
Any questions about why all his college transcripts are closed?
John Edwards had an affair, and it seems that he has disappeared from the face of the Earth. But you have a guy who is weeks away from being President with some sort of link/ties to a terrorist and a racist minister. Does it intrigue you at least a little bit?

No.

His 'relationship' with Ayers wasn't much of a relationship at all, and honestly, spare me all the outrage over a 'racist minister'. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell have said things very similar to what Jeremiah Wright said (America deserving 9/11), and I don't see anyone screaming 'kill him!' about McCain for associating with those two nutbags.

Big ****ing deal there's a black pastor who has resentment towards white people that Obama knows. I love how this white racism at McCain rallies is glanced over, but there's a black guy who doesn't like white people (one who Obama denounced) and everybody loses their ****. Get a grip. If you really think, after the guy has been campaigning for two years, that Obama secretly hates white people and loves domestic terrorism, you're a moron. Sorry, but you are.

It's one thing to decry his lack of experience or say he hasn't proven himself yet, but these insinuations that he's some Manchurian candidate secretly bent on turning America upside down the moment he gets into office are so absurd and batshit crazy, I can't believe I just typed three paragraphs in response to them.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

No.

His 'relationship' with Ayers wasn't much of a relationship at all, and honestly, spare me all the outrage over a 'racist minister'. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell have said things very similar to what Jeremiah Wright said (America deserving 9/11), and I don't see anyone screaming 'kill him!' about McCain for associating with those two nutbags.

Big ****ing deal there's a black pastor who has resentment towards white people that Obama knows. I love how this white racism at McCain rallies is glanced over, but there's a black guy who doesn't like white people (one who Obama denounced) and everybody loses their ****. Get a grip. If you really think, after the guy has been campaigning for two years, that Obama secretly hates white people and loves domestic terrorism, you're a moron. Sorry, but you are.

It's one thing to decry his lack of experience or say he hasn't proven himself yet, but these insinuations that he's some Manchurian candidate secretly bent on turning America upside down the moment he gets into office are so absurd and batshit crazy, I can't believe I just typed three paragraphs in response to them.

Find out who funded the empty suits' college degree, and who hooked him up to the Annenburg Challenge, etc etc. One incident at a public rally and you lump McCain with the vitrol from Wright that Obama listened and FUNDED for over 20 years? Nice scholarship,Joey!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

No.

His 'relationship' with Ayers wasn't much of a relationship at all, and honestly, spare me all the outrage over a 'racist minister'. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell have said things very similar to what Jeremiah Wright said (America deserving 9/11), and I don't see anyone screaming 'kill him!' about McCain for associating with those two nutbags.

Big ****ing deal there's a black pastor who has resentment towards white people that Obama knows. I love how this white racism at McCain rallies is glanced over, but there's a black guy who doesn't like white people (one who Obama denounced) and everybody loses their ****. Get a grip. If you really think, after the guy has been campaigning for two years, that Obama secretly hates white people and loves domestic terrorism, you're a moron. Sorry, but you are.

It's one thing to decry his lack of experience or say he hasn't proven himself yet, but these insinuations that he's some Manchurian candidate secretly bent on turning America upside down the moment he gets into office are so absurd and batshit crazy, I can't believe I just typed three paragraphs in response to them.

Joey, racism is racism - I don't care what color you are. I don't understand how you can make excuses for Obama's obvious dislike of whites. Some quotes from his book, Dreams From My Father:

"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

"There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

"It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

"I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela."

These are real quotes from his book. I guess it's a matter of opinion as to what he really meant while writing it, but I was insulted when I read it myself. Sorry, but I don't like racism on ANY front.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

For anyone who is endorsing Obama. Do you have any questions or at least a little intrigued about his ties in the past? Whether it is Ayers or Wright or anyone else that is being dug up. What are you feelings on the issue?
Any questions about why all his college transcripts are closed?
John Edwards had an affair, and it seems that he has disappeared from the face of the Earth. But you have a guy who is weeks away from being President with some sort of link/ties to a terrorist and a racist minister. Does it intrigue you at least a little bit?

I will answer your question and in turn I hope you will answer mine. Do you find it curious that this is suddenly a "big issue"? Do you think that you are in any way parroting the desperate McCain campaign that is throwing any mud that they can find because they know the election is virtually a lost cause? Do you really think Obama is a terrorist?

Now to answer your questions. Obama isnt the son of Admiral McCain or President HW Bush. He had to make his own way in the world and he had to start at the bottom. There are unsavory characters at every level the only difference is that the ones from the bottom actually go to jail.

Do I think he had heard his pastor say bad things? I do. I think Obama knew that Wright felt the way he does. Does it mean that obama feels this way? No, i dont think it does.

Do I think its a big deal about Ayers? No, i think its ridiculous.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I will answer your question and in turn I hope you will answer mine. Do you find it curious that this is suddenly a "big issue"? Do you think that you are in any way parroting the desperate McCain campaign that is throwing any mud that they can find because they know the election is virtually a lost cause? Do you really think Obama is a terrorist?

Now to answer your questions. Obama isnt the son of Admiral McCain or President HW Bush. He had to make his own way in the world and he had to start at the bottom. There are unsavory characters at every level the only difference is that the ones from the bottom actually go to jail.

Do I think he had heard his pastor say bad things? I do. I think Obama knew that Wright felt the way he does. Does it mean that obama feels this way? No, i dont think it does.

Do I think its a big deal about Ayers? No, i think its ridiculous.

...said the mongoose to the cobra!

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I will answer your question and in turn I hope you will answer mine. Do you find it curious that this is suddenly a "big issue"? Do you think that you are in any way parroting the desperate McCain campaign that is throwing any mud that they can find because they know the election is virtually a lost cause? Do you really think Obama is a terrorist?

Now to answer your questions. Obama isnt the son of Admiral McCain or President HW Bush. He had to make his own way in the world and he had to start at the bottom. There are unsavory characters at every level the only difference is that the ones from the bottom actually go to jail.

Do I think he had heard his pastor say bad things? I do. I think Obama knew that Wright felt the way he does. Does it mean that obama feels this way? No, i dont think it does.

Do I think its a big deal about Ayers? No, i think its ridiculous.

That's fair, I was just curious what some Obama supporters thought about the alledged relationships.
As far as your questions goes. Of course I don't think he is a terrorist. As far as the republicans bringing it up now, of course it is a desperation play. It is very late in the game to be playing the muck game. But really what does McCain have to lose? I can't believe that it has taken so long to bring this up. I would have thought that Hilary would have touched on the subject a long time ago. Maybe it really is a non issue, or the media would have been all over right? Or is it just the liberal press. I think it is a little of both.
Bottom line is that people want a change. They see McCain being a republican and link him to GW (Obama has done a good job constantly linking the two). Obviously it is Obama's race to lose, but stranger things have happened and nothing would suprise me when Washington is involved.