Is a vote for Sarah..a vote for Todd as well?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Ignorant is blaming neocons for every thing that has gone wrong in the modern world. Do we not seperate the black vote and hispanic vote? Or woman voters? Are you reading what you are writing? Perhaps YOU should understand the subject because the Isreal lobby lobbies the PEOPLE IN CHARGE who happen to be Republicans. When Obama is in charge, they will be lobbying to him.

You are hopelessly flailing at a subject you don't understand nor care to. Why?

Do you have any idea of who is in the Isreal lobby? Look it up. Educate yourself.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

You are hopelessly flailing at a subject you don't understand nor care to. Why?

Do you have any idea of who is in the Isreal lobby? Look it up. Educate yourself.

Do you think that our policy towrds Isreal will change under democratic leadership?

You accused me of something a few posts ago that was so ridiclous that you refuse to respond to my post yet I need to educate myself? The US policy towrds Isreal has not varied much depending on who the leadership was in this country since 1945.

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[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Do you think that our policy towrds Isreal will change under democratic leadership?

You accused me of something a few posts ago that was so ridiclous that you refuse to respond to my post yet I need to educate myself? The US policy towrds Isreal has not varied much depending on who the leadership was in this country since 1945.

This is quite true. We've had the same policy towards Isreal with Clinton, Carter, Nixon, Bush 1 & 2, Ronny, ect, ect.

Whether a Repub or Dem is in office doesnt affect this.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

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You accused me of something a few posts ago that was so ridiclous that you refuse to respond to my post yet I need to educate myself? The US policy towrds Isreal has not varied much depending on who the leadership was in this country since 1945.

Umm, chuck, Isreal wasnt a state until 1948. And if you dont think aid militarily and economically has grown exponentially since the sixties, you are proving even more clueless on the topic than i originally thought.

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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

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Umm, chuck, Isreal wasnt a state until 1948. And if you dont think aid militarily and economically has grown exponentially since the sixties, you are proving even more clueless on the topic than i originally thought.

I dont know why you feel the need to call names? 1945,48, what is the difference. You called me out for suggesting their was a jewish vote. Which their obviously is. Then you call me out and call me names yet never answer any of the questions. You ignore the fact that our Isreali policy is basically the same regardless of party in charge. the only thing you brought to this discussion was the introduction of the Isreal Lobby and it's conservative eadership but failed to do anything else but call names. Or of course some 1000 page crap that we are supposed to take as fact.

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[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont know why you feel the need to call names? 1945,48, what is the difference. You called me out for suggesting their was a jewish vote. Which their obviously is. Then you call me out and call me names yet never answer any of the questions. You ignore the fact that our Isreali policy is basically the same regardless of party in charge. the only thing you brought to this discussion was the introduction of the Isreal Lobby and it's conservative eadership but failed to do anything else but call names. Or of course some 1000 page crap that we are supposed to take as fact.

And what have you brought Chuck besides your uneducated views on a topic you have nary a clue. You attempt to regurgitate your party line banter no doubt garnered from Foxnews and Sean Hannity. YOU THINK ISRAEL WAS BORN IN 1945 and our policy hasnt changed since. What choice do i have but to call that statement ignorant?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

And what have you brought Chuck besides your uneducated views on a topic you have nary a clue. You attempt to regurgitate your party line banter no doubt garnered from Foxnews and Sean Hannity. YOU THINK ISRAEL WAS BORN IN 1945 and our policy hasnt changed since. What choice do i have but to call that statement ignorant?

hard to believe I put 1945 when it was 1948. So far off. What have I said that isnt true? That Isreal is our only ally in the ME? That the ME is a unstable area? That Isreal has nukes and wont be afraid to use them if threatened? That it is impossible for people on a mesage board to determine the what amount of aid between countries is correct? That our policy towrds Isreal has been pretty consistent regardless of ruling party?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

hard to believe I put 1945 when it was 1948. So far off. What have I said that isnt true? That Isreal is our only ally in the ME? That the ME is a unstable area? That Isreal has nukes and wont be afraid to use them if threatened? That it is impossible for people on a mesage board to determine the what amount of aid between countries is correct? That our policy towrds Isreal has been pretty consistent regardless of ruling party?

Those are base facts. Is that what you are resorting to? You need to stick to debates with the antitrust32's of the world.

Where are your facts wrong?

Policy toward Israel hasnt changed since 1945,er, 1948

This alone shows a complete lack of understanding of US policy toward the region. It was not until the mid 60's that the US policy changed significantly. 1967 to be exact. Our aid to Israel both militarily and economically increased dramatically. These were the formative years of the neo con movement. Nixon years. Between 1967 and 1990, we had all of four years with a democrat in office.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

hard to believe I put 1945 when it was 1948. So far off. What have I said that isnt true? That Isreal is our only ally in the ME? That the ME is a unstable area? That Isreal has nukes and wont be afraid to use them if threatened? That it is impossible for people on a mesage board to determine the what amount of aid between countries is correct? That our policy towrds Isreal has been pretty consistent regardless of ruling party?

You said that I support the withdraw of US support for Isreal, which is not true. In fact, you put a lot of words into my mouth by making assumptions about my posts that were not true. The only thing i said was our support of Isreal is the main core reason we are hated by the ME.

I dont disagree with your statements above. I just dont feel we need to be so high up Isreals asses like we are. And we can keep some of that money and use it towards that grand ol' U S of A.