Travers week officially begins!

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Ok, tomorrow morning marks the beginning of travers hype and Travers week. Looking forward to the coverage of this matchup that looks to be unfolding. May the best horse(and his trainer) win.

Knowing your love for Albertrani, I"m assuming you're statement is intended as a declaration that Bluegrass Cat will win the Travers. No?

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

Knowing your love for Albertrani, I"m assuming you're statement is intended as a declaration that Bluegrass Cat will win the Travers. No?

Not really, I think its a matter of it being kind of fascinating that for once Pletcher is the underdog in a big race like this and that he will actually get the credit he deserves if he wins.
Every time Todd wins a race everyone acts like its no big deal because " he was supposed to". I think seeing him the underdog role is something interesting, don't you?

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Not really, I think its a matter of it being kind of fascinating that for once Pletcher is the underdog in a big race like this and that he will actually get the credit he deserves if he wins.
Every time Todd wins a race everyone acts like its no big deal because " he was supposed to". I think seeing him the underdog role is something interesting, don't you?

Yes. I know I do.

[ateamstupid]

There's no 3-year-old that can beat Mr. 'dini.. I'll entertain anyone who says Invasor will beat him.. That's absolutely valid for now.. Even Lava Man has a case for the moment.. But no 3-year-old is beating Bern' Baby Bern'..

[Nostradamus]

I don't see the Travers being competitive. Probably a 5-10 length win for Bernardini. I expect BGC to bounce and even his best effort wouldn't keep him within 5 of the winner. Only one horse has a shot at Bernardini this year, Invasor. Bright One might have a shot come BCC time. If I had to bet right now though I would think Bernardini and David Junior will fight it out in the BCC and Bernardini will win by a length.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Nostradamus

I don't see the Travers being competitive. Probably a 5-10 length win for Bernardini. I expect BGC to bounce and even his best effort wouldn't keep him within 5 of the winner. Only one horse has a shot at Bernardini this year, Invasor. Bright One might have a shot come BCC time. If I had to bet right now though I would think Bernardini and David Junior will fight it out in the BCC and Bernardini will win by a length.

I love David Junior but you're putting in a lot of faith for him, especially considering that they are training him up to the race.

[Slewstoo]

This isn't going to be much of race, Bernardini will win by 3 over Bluegrass Cat with some longshot rounding out the tri.

Where are all of Baffert's horses? You would think that he would take a shot with either Point Determined, Sinister Minister (who should have ran in the Haskell), or Bob and John. Second or third place money is better than working bullets over and over again.

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

Knowing your love for Albertrani, I"m assuming you're statement is intended as a declaration that Bluegrass Cat will win the Travers. No?

And Zippy its not about what i think about Albertrani. Its how I feel about the lack of respect that Pletcher gets from many here. You know, he has a lotta well bred nice horses. But he wins a lot with those horses. Its not so easy as you think it is. And when he does win its all ho hum, he was supposed to win. When he loses everyone jumps ugly on him. Its a bull**** double standard and its wrong. Hes not having his best meet ever, but hes still around the 20% plus mark. If he was 1-18(or in his case with so many starters, lets say 4-72 which would be the equivalent) you guys would be roasting him on a spit and degrading him daily. So whats up with double standard? I guess if he wins this one that he isnt supposed to win, maybe some will be forced to give him credit.
The guy is the ultimate professional. And I think even with all hes done he doesnt get the credit he deserves. So I'm not "rooting against" Tom Albertrani and Bernadini. I'm "rooting for" Todd and Bluegrass cat, there is a difference. I will say that if Cat loses I hope Bern wins. Any time you get a horse who has superstar potential its great for the game, and Bern has that potential.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by oracle80

And Zippy its not about what i think about Albertrani. Its how I feel about the lack of respect that Pletcher gets from many here. You know, he has a lotta well bred nice horses. But he wins a lot with those horses. Its not so easy as you think it is. And when he does win its all ho hum, he was supposed to win. When he loses everyone jumps ugly on him. Its a bull**** double standard and its wrong. Hes not having his best meet ever, but hes still around the 20% plus mark. If he was 1-18(or in his case with so many starters, lets say 4-72 which would be the equivalent) you guys would be roasting him on a spit and degrading him daily. So whats up with double standard? I guess if he wins this one that he isnt supposed to win, maybe some will be forced to give him credit.
The guy is the ultimate professional. And I think even with all hes done he doesnt get the credit he deserves. So I'm not "rooting against" Tom Albertrani and Bernadini. I'm "rooting for" Todd and Bluegrass cat, there is a difference. I will say that if Cat loses I hope Bern wins. Any time you get a horse who has superstar potential its great for the game, and Bern has that potential.

I don't think you were saying this directly at me, but I'll say it anyway... I've never "roasted" or "attacked" Pletcher. Of course he's the best. I was just prodding you about who you think will win the Travers.