Swale....Winning Two Legs of The Triple Crown

[RolloTomasi]

Another Derby-Belmont winner was Chateaugay in '70. Not sure what he did in the Preakness.

Tabasco Cat and Point Given also won the Preakness and Belmont.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Another Derby-Belmont winner was Chateaugay in '70. Not sure what he did in the Preakness.

Tabasco Cat and Point Given also won the Preakness and Belmont.

he was second.

[RollerDoc]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Another Derby-Belmont winner was Chateaugay in '70. Not sure what he did in the Preakness.

Tabasco Cat and Point Given also won the Preakness and Belmont.

For some reason, I think Tabasco Cat is my all-time favorite horse name.

[Linny]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Another Derby-Belmont winner was Chateaugay in '70. Not sure what he did in the Preakness.

Tabasco Cat and Point Given also won the Preakness and Belmont.

Chateaugay was 1963 I think.

Woody was high on Swale once Devil's Bag showed that he was not moving up at 3. Before that, though he was fond of Swale, he was convinced that Devil's Bag was the second coming of Man O' War. Swale was from a nice Claiborne family and (IMO) would likely have made a very good stallion.

Champions is the best racing book ever. Anyone who cares to debate the relative merits of horses of different eras MUST have read it. Like Andy, I was lucky to have seen horses like Secretariat, Forego, Ruffian, Slew, Bid etc. When you see horses that did amazing things like Forego's campaign in the fall of 1974 or Exceller and Slew in the Gold Cup or even Personal Ensign running much of her unbeaten career with steel pins in her leg, you have some perspective. I've read more racing history that I can recount and have gone over those PP's of horses from decades ago (20's, 30's etc) while reading books about the greats of each era. It's amazing what you find.
As for Big Brown, if Proudinsky had romped in the Joe Hirsch Turf Classic, I'd have been more impressed with him.

[Indian Charlie]

I was told by a reputable source once that Swale's death was shocking.

[Danzig]

well, of course it was shocking. eight days after the belmont, getting a bath and he just collapsed.
one article i read said they never did come up with a definitive reason for his death.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Danzig

well, of course it was shocking. eight days after the belmont, getting a bath and he just collapsed.
one article i read said they never did come up with a definitive reason for his death.

Uh, that was a play on words Danzig.

The word shocking was a play on words. He didn't just drop dead while taking a bath.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Uh, that was a play on words Danzig.

The word shocking was a play on words. He didn't just drop dead while taking a bath.

i thought it might be while i was replying.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Linny

Chateaugay was 1963 I think.

Yeah, you're right. I just finished reading "The Big Horse" and the dude who wrote it mentioned Chateaugay's Derby as the race that got him hooked. I coulda sworn he said it was 1970 at the time, but either way it was wrong.

I wish "Champions" wasn't restricted to just champions. I see they snuck in horses like Lure and Best Pal, why don't they just toss in the rest?

Seriously they should put in all multiple Grade 1 winners and classic winners. Cut out the useless text if you have to. Bet Twice, Java Gold, Star Of Cozzene, Bien Bien, Proud Truth, Gate Dancer, Tabasco Cat, Grand Canyon, Seeking The Gold, Dancing Spree, Nasr El Arab, Great Communicator, Cryptoclearance, Gorgeous, With Approval, Fraise, Miss Brio, Ogygian, Mogambo, Polish Navy, Fran's Valentine, Lakeway, Sardula, Astra, Broad Brush, etc., etc.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Linny

Champions is the best racing book ever. Anyone who cares to debate the relative merits of horses of different eras MUST have read it.

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