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Old 08-21-2006, 08:07 PM
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All I know is that I would rather have Todd Pletcher in my corner on Saturday than anyone else. Apparently ole Tommy boy's meet isn't going so well. Guy has all that valuabel anbd expensive horseflesh in his barn and after 4 weeks he still sadly only has one win. I know you all couldnt wait to jump ugly on me after i ridiculed his job with Songster. Appears I know more as usual. one win in 4 weeks, geez thats just swell.
Sure, Todd is probably a better trainer...no arguement there. But, a great horse is dangerous in any man's hands.....Just look at guys like Leroy Jolley and Bill Turner, etc....those guys couldn't win a one-horse race these days, but did fine when they had steam boats in there barns...
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Old 08-21-2006, 08:10 PM
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Sure, Todd is probably a better trainer...no arguement there. But, a great horse is dangerous in any man's hands.....Just look at guys like Leroy Jolley and Bill Turner, etc....those guys couldn't win a one-horse race these days, but did fine when they had steam boats in there barns...
I expected a better argument Joel from all those just dying for him to win a race since I jumped all over him for a LOUSY job with Songster. Alas, he hasnt won a race since then. And please, with all the Sheikh horses I really don't wanna hear about his stock or lack of it. Fact is if you have to bet he or Todd on Saturday, well, you make the call. I know my money goes on the most competent trainer who always tries hard, Todd Pletcher.
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Old 08-21-2006, 08:14 PM
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well mike do you really want to call out tom...i think dini is the best horse in training right now..he gonna school all on travers day ..ill leave this board for ever if he doesent win sat.. and you need too take care of some loose end or there is gonna be a problem...simons guy is pissed
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Old 08-21-2006, 08:19 PM
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well mike do you really want to call out tom...i think dini is the best horse in training right now..he gonna school all on travers day ..ill leave this board for ever if he doesent win sat.. and you need too take care of some loose end or there is gonna be a problem...simons guy is pissed

I think that Bernadini is a great horse, I saw his work the other day and he looked marvelous. That being said, I don't like the way Albertrani's horses are running up here at all. hes got stock, so whats the deal? Whos fault is it Hooves? Obviously on talent bernadini has the edge, but better trainers have beaten better horses before and Cat's workout was great the other day, better than Dini's. I'm thinking its a stretch duel that goes to Cat.
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Old 08-21-2006, 08:27 PM
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[quote=oracle80]I think that Bernadini is a great horse, I saw his work the other day and he looked marvelous. That being said, I don't like the way Albertrani's horses are running up here at all. hes got stock, so whats the deal? Whos fault is it Hooves? Obviously on talent bernadini has the edge, but better trainers have beaten better horses before and Cat's workout was great the other day, better than Dini's. I'm thinking its a stretch duel that goes to Cat.[/QUOTE...there wont be one ..how can you compare the two..has never put two good runs together..check mate dini....
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Old 08-21-2006, 08:32 PM
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I think that Bernadini is a great horse, I saw his work the other day and he looked marvelous. That being said, I don't like the way Albertrani's horses are running up here at all. hes got stock, so whats the deal? Whos fault is it Hooves? Obviously on talent bernadini has the edge, but better trainers have beaten better horses before and Cat's workout was great the other day, better than Dini's. I'm thinking its a stretch duel that goes to Cat.[/QUOTE...there wont be one ..how can you compare the two..has never put two good runs together..check mate dini....

That true Hooves he hasnt. But a guy I respect whos trained a few Storm cats told me the problem with training them is two fold. Number one they are unsound as a rule, many of them offset just like Daddy. Number two, many of them are just real hot blooded and mental cases, it takes a while for many of them to figure things out, a long while.
The problem is that number one often prevents number two from happening. In other words most of em break down and are finished before the lightbulb comes on over their heads and they figure out what it is that they are supposed to be doing. This one appears to have figured out the game and is still sound. I respect very much the opinion of the guy who told me this and it makes a lotta sense if you think about examples you may have seen.
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