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Old 09-24-2008, 12:39 AM
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I'm not trying to be anal, but wasn't Elusive Quality a brilliantly fast 3 year old? I know when he got to the turf he really put it all together, but I'm pretty sure he was flashy at 3.
He lost by a nose to honour and glory in the kings bishop after running 6f in 108 and 4/5 and i think there was an allowance race ( loss at belmont) where he set the fractions and got caught at the wire.

Yeah...he was fast. That loss in the KB had to be heartbreaking because he was clear with like 100 yards to go before H and G caught him at the wire.
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Old 09-24-2008, 12:44 AM
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He lost by a nose to honour and glory in the kings bishop after running 6f in 108 and 4/5 and i think there was an allowance race ( loss at belmont) where he set the fractions and got caught at the wire.

Yeah...he was fast. That loss in the KB had to be heartbreaking because he was clear with like 100 yards to go before H and G caught him at the wire.

If memory serves me right, Honour and Glory was ten tons the best that day and got a terrible ride by Santos. I'll have to go check Youtube.

But, you're right, Elusive Quality was pretty good on the dirt. His big turf wins were aided by extremely hard turf at Belmont.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:44 AM
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monster....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtOEp...eature=related
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:51 AM
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Rock Hard Ten? Seriously?
MONSTER
biggest cash ever when he beat St Liam in the BIG CAP, i want to say they let him go off at 7-2
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:17 AM
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You're a funny dude. I forgot horses talent was based on who you cash with. Since you're on youtube do yourself a favor and try and look at some races prior to the year 2000. I realize the prospect of learning a little and getting some perspective is scary, but it won't hurt you.
if i never cashed on him, he'd still be a monster.... Gary Stevens, who i look at as a top 5 all time Jockey, says Rock Hard Ten is the best horse he ever sat on.
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Old 09-24-2008, 04:38 AM
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if i never cashed on him, he'd still be a monster.... Gary Stevens, who i look at as a top 5 all time Jockey, says Rock Hard Ten is the best horse he ever sat on.

He said that about 50 horses he rode.
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Old 09-24-2008, 04:59 AM
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He said that about 50 horses he rode.
IM young i did not here him speak much
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Old 09-24-2008, 04:57 AM
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if i never cashed on him, he'd still be a monster.... Gary Stevens, who i look at as a top 5 all time Jockey, says Rock Hard Ten is the best horse he ever sat on.
lol.
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Old 09-24-2008, 04:59 AM
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By the way, that race with H&G, DH and EQ, someone commented on Youtube that the 2nd and 3rd place finishers each sired a derby winner, and that H&G's best shot at one died.

Any idea who that might be?
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Old 09-24-2008, 05:00 AM
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lol.
what ?
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Old 09-24-2008, 02:19 AM
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You're a funny dude. I forgot horses talent was based on who you cash with. Since you're on youtube do yourself a favor and try and look at some races prior to the year 2000. I realize the prospect of learning a little and getting some perspective is scary, but it won't hurt you.
he was not talented ?
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do yourself a favor and try and look at some races prior to the year 2000.
Have you forgotten that this kid once proclaimed that Favorite Trick was "hands down" the greatest 2yo of all time, and that Jazil was the most overrated horse in history?
He is hopeless.
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Here's a link....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhylcPiZZlA


An odd ride, maybe, but just a good race ultimately. Losing to Honour and Glory in a photo, regardless of circumstances, was no easy feat. He was a tremendously talented horse.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:04 AM
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That was a pretty nice field in the King's Bishop. I just got depressed watching some of Honour and Glory's races. He was awesome. Can you imagine the kind of talk he would drum up if he were running today? Nowadays people get excited over Visionaire...

I was thinking the same thing. Another great example of why some of us get annoyed with some of the recent horses anointed with greatness.
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:07 AM
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I was thinking the same thing. Another great example of why some of us get annoyed with some of the recent horses anointed with greatness.
In watching that replay, the announcer called H and G the highweight. How was the kings bishop weighted back then and when did they change to equal weights?
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That was a pretty nice field in the King's Bishop. I just got depressed watching some of Honour and Glory's races. He was awesome.
Here's one to feel good about.. I just uploaded his maiden race.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POe1OnbgNIg

It's amazing he held his form for as long as he did in 1996, he danced just about every dance possible that year...
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I skimmed the thread and didn't see this but if it was mentioned, sorry. Turns out Go Smarty Go fractured a cannon bone and will be on the shelf til next year. The trainer's optimistic that he'll be something nice in 2009.
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I skimmed the thread and didn't see this but if it was mentioned, sorry. Turns out Go Smarty Go fractured a cannon bone and will be on the shelf til next year. The trainer's optimistic that he'll be something nice in 2009.
That's a shame.
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Old 09-25-2008, 06:50 AM
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From MaidenWatch at Blood-Horse.com

Update on Go Smarty Go

Go Smarty Go (Smarty Jones - Sarah's World by Holy Bull), who was pulled up after winning a maiden race on the turf on September 21, suffered a condylar fracture in his left front. He had surgery and the prognosis is good, but he is unlikely to race again.
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