Lava Man Is The NUTS

[2MinsToPost]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Stupid thing to say. Noone argues any of what you just said, I myself have said the same thing. But the argument on this thread that hes HOY and can beat horses when shipped out of Cali is another story. If you have the guts, wanna make a bet on how he fares when shipped out of Cali? I'll give you post time odds when he runs, plus one point. If you feel so strongly about this you should be raring to go.

No, I simply am pointing out the obvious.

No, I will not take you up on that bet either. Thanks anyway.

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

No, I simply am pointing out the obvious.

No, I will not take you up on that bet either. Thanks anyway.

So then what was the point of the post? Pointing out the obvious is fine but to represent those who doubt his success if shipped away from Cali as "haters" is not at all fair. I personally think hes one hell of a great story. A claim that makes all that loot and tries so damn hard. I love the horse and his story. But a perusal of what he has beaten in that stretch is basically a whos who of horses who get knocked for hanging, and horses who just aren't very good. I don't find it to be "hating" if someone questions his competition and how much home field advantage plays into things. hes a gelding, so there is no residual value in the shed. They have managed him to PERFECTION by maximizing his earning value in spots worth big cash at home. They deserve incredible kudos for this. Its what you do with a gelding. But I draw the line with those who say he leaves California and wins a race agaisnt grade one company this fall. Thats not gonna happen.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by oracle80

So then what was the point of the post? Pointing out the obvious is fine but to represent those who doubt his success if shipped away from Cali as "haters" is not at all fair. I personally think hes one hell of a great story. A claim that makes all that loot and tries so damn hard. I love the horse and his story. But a perusal of what he has beaten in that stretch is basically a whos who of horses who get knocked for hanging, and horses who just aren't very good. I don't find it to be "hating" if someone questions his competition and how much home field advantage plays into things. hes a gelding, so there is no residual value in the shed. They have managed him to PERFECTION by maximizing his earning value in spots worth big cash at home. They deserve incredible kudos for this. Its what you do with a gelding. But I draw the line with those who say he leaves California and wins a race agaisnt grade one company this fall. Thats not gonna happen.

They haven't picked easy spots for him. They shipped him to New York and even shipped him to Japan. He lost in New York. So what. He obviously did not fire that day. Borrego won that race by 7 lengths and LM is much better than Borrego. LM's poor performance in New York is no more significant than Saint Liam's poor performance in California.

Your arguments are not very conistent. By the way, since you think those sheet figures work so well, why don't you look at LM's sheet figures. I don't even know what his figures are, but I can guarantee that he has run faster than all the east coast dogs that you think are so good. HE's run some huge races the last year 15 months. You swear by those sheet figures except for when they contradict your opinion.