do we want to know the truth?

[Antitrust32]

I could care less whether Sarah Palin's plane sold on ebay or not.

[geeker2]

I have to laugh..when all these Senators like Biden and Obama are condemning Palin a Governor for ASKING for earmarks - when they are actually the ones that vote for the projects and the $$$$$$. If they find it so abhorring - why don't they just declare that they will not vote for earmarks - period.

I am going on record that I am ASKING for $25 K to re-do my back porch - if the Senators vote me the $$$ - I'll take it and run...

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by geeker2

I have to laugh..when all these Senators like Biden and Obama are condemning Palin a Governor for ASKING for earmarks - when they are actually the ones that vote for the projects and the $$$$$$. If they find it so abhorring - why don't they just declare that they will not vote for earmarks - period.

I am going on record that I am ASKING for $25 K to re-do my back porch - if the Senators vote me the $$$ - I'll take it and run...

Geeker-

Obama and Biden arent campaigning as "the maverick" or the "government reformer" that is going to rid our country of earmarks. Palin/Mccain are.

McCain went on national TV and LIED about Palin not requesting earmarks.

If she is so AGAINST earmarks, why ask for nearly a half a billion dollars in less than 2 years?

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Geeker-

Obama and Biden arent campaigning as "the maverick" or the "government reformer" that is going to rid our country of earmarks. Palin/Mccain are.

McCain went on national TV and LIED about Palin not requesting earmarks.

If she is so AGAINST earmarks, why ask for nearly a half a billion dollars in less than 2 years?

Because the system allows it and almost demands it....

I can understand a postion that says we must reform the system - but while the system is still handing out $$$$ I am going to get my share.


Hey I don't think it is right that they are handing out $$$$ for my new deck - but if they are going to hand it out anyway - sh^t I am going to take it...but I may say it aint right!


..and are you saying that O/B are for earmarks and not reforming the system? where exactly do they stand?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Because the system allows it and almost demands it....

I can understand a postion that says we must reform the system - but while the system is still handing out $$$$ I am going to get my share.


Hey I don't think it is right that they are handing out $$$$ for my new deck - but if they are going to hand it out anyway - sh^t I am going to take it...but I may say it aint right!


..and are you saying that O/B are for earmarks and not reforming the system? where exactly do they stand?

If I am going to lambast my opponent and his earmark requests, I am going to make damn sure that I am clean on this front. Per capita, Alaska is worse. She is actually the earmark queen. That is why she is in bed (not literally...i dont think) with that corrupt congressman up there.

To answer your question, Obama's state has no earmarks for 2009 and is in favor of earmark reform.

Further, Geeker, why would McCain LIE about it on national TV. Do you want to see the clip where McCain says that Palin did not receive earmarks?

[Payson Dave]

Ya'll are taking this polictical rhetoric way to seriously....at the national level they all have many skeletons in the closet...it's mostly a matter of deciding who might be least offensive.

[TheSpyder]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

Ya'll are taking this polictical rhetoric way to seriously....at the national level they all have many skeletons in the closet...it's mostly a matter of deciding who might be least offensive.

I could not agree more. It's an election people! Candidates say all kinds of things stretching the truth more than silly putty. Yes, there's some accurate things said, but trying to weigh through all the crap is fruitless.
You may like one candidate more than another but trying to come to some conclusion (I'm right , your wrong) is absolutely fruitless.

Nothing gets done anyway, I mean the things that can reshape our country that is miserable shape until there is a crisis. As soon as this was is over will see one as the money that pumps the war is falsely boistering our economy. Then will see a crisis and things will change.

Have a nice day,

Spyder

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

Ya'll are taking this polictical rhetoric way to seriously....at the national level they all have many skeletons in the closet...it's mostly a matter of deciding who might be least offensive.

AGREE!!! You may as well read the National Enquirer these days as the newspapers.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

If I am going to lambast my opponent and his earmark requests, I am going to make damn sure that I am clean on this front. Hey..like my friend GBBOB pointed out it's politics Per capita, Alaska is worse. isn't this a distorted fact only because the population of Alaska is 47 out of 57.. hehehe an Obama mis-speak She is actually the earmark queen. That is why she is in bed (not literally...i dont think) with that corrupt congressman up there. no proof but politically it sounds good

To answer your question, Obama's state has no earmarks for 2009 and is in favor of earmark reform. last year 112 earmarks totaling more than $330 million in taxpayer funds-but now he is against it - not sure this is much different that Palin's position



Further, Geeker, why would McCain LIE about it on national TV. Do you want to see the clip where McCain says that Palin did not receive earmarks? I saw the remark..LIE is a bit strong..I do believe he mis-spoke in saying "not as a Governor" and he should be challenged on it for sure

...but if that $25 K shows I am spending it ($5K on new deck - $20K in Vegas)

[ArlJim78]

earmark requests do not come from govenors, they are funding requests that get slipped into congressional bills by senators or congressmen, therefore the specific funding requested in the earmark can be as porky as they want, but they don't get voted on separately as its part of the whole bill package.

Palin requested federal money for projects for Alaska, not through the earmark process, just like all of her predecessors except she significantly reduced the requests compared to previous years. These funding requests have to be justified, and congress can vote them down.

so, Mccain was correct, Palin did not request earmarks.
she did however ask for federal money for Alaska.

[geeker2]

Jim..thanks..it does explain things a bit more..at least for me.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

earmark requests do not come from govenors, they are funding requests that get slipped into congressional bills by senators or congressmen, therefore the specific funding requested in the earmark can be as porky as they want, but they don't get voted on separately as its part of the whole bill package.

Palin requested federal money for projects for Alaska, not through the earmark process, just like all of her predecessors except she significantly reduced the requests compared to previous years. These funding requests have to be justified, and congress can vote them down.

so, Mccain was correct, Palin did not request earmarks.
she did however ask for federal money for Alaska.

McCain claimed that she did NOT RECEIVE earmarks. You are trying to change what he said and you are wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMN_PP2qhNQ