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Old 09-12-2008, 12:14 PM
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the whole fin' country was behind the war when it was started. dems and repubs. More Democrats voted FOR the war than Not for. (I briefly counted 29 dems for, and 23 against). I remember speaking to my friend who works as an arabic translator in the navy b4 the war (and hes a dem) and he told me we will be suprised by the amount of WMD's we will find over there.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LI...0237&session=2

You wont find Obama's vote cause he was still doing nothing in the state senate.
As any thinking person would surmise, the WMD's were moved to Syria and parts unknown....the entire world believed Saddam had them and wouldn't hesitate to use them
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Old 09-12-2008, 12:21 PM
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As any thinking person would surmise, the WMD's were moved to Syria and parts unknown....the entire world believed Saddam had them and wouldn't hesitate to use them

there is no way that Iraq DIDNT have WMD's. I do wish Bush would have gone with what the UN was trying to make happen at the time, instead of directly going against the UN and basically making the United Nations useless. that kinda upset me at the time.
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Old 09-12-2008, 12:25 PM
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As any thinking person would surmise, the WMD's were moved to Syria and parts unknown....the entire world believed Saddam had them and wouldn't hesitate to use them
Yes, the idea that US surveillance couldnt capture the movement of stockpiles of chemical and nuclear weapons is highly plausible.

Its just as plausible that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11 in the first place.

Or as plausible that the reason we are over there is to liberate the Iraqi people.

Or as plausible that oil had nothing to do with it.

Or as plausible that cheney and the boys didnt make a lot of money from it



Yes im sure these ideas are all highly plausible.
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Old 09-13-2008, 10:38 AM
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Yes, the idea that US surveillance couldnt capture the movement of stockpiles of chemical and nuclear weapons is highly plausible.

Its just as plausible that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11 in the first place.

Or as plausible that the reason we are over there is to liberate the Iraqi people.

Or as plausible that oil had nothing to do with it.

Or as plausible that cheney and the boys didnt make a lot of money from it



Yes im sure these ideas are all highly plausible.
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...classified.pdf

This is an declassified report sent to the leaders of Congress, which they largely ignored because it was politically expedient to do so! Fox had it on their site...but they didn't manufacture the pdf to Congress
As has been mentioned before, the entire landscape of Iraq turns out to be an ammo dump!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=48827
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Old 09-13-2008, 01:26 PM
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http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/...classified.pdf

This is an declassified report sent to the leaders of Congress, which they largely ignored because it was politically expedient to do so! Fox had it on their site...but they didn't manufacture the pdf to Congress
As has been mentioned before, the entire landscape of Iraq turns out to be an ammo dump!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=48827
Neither of these links do anything to support your point. Neither. Come on, timmi, take some ginko and some geritol and get to digging up something good.

You are making yourself look really bad here.
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Old 09-13-2008, 06:39 PM
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Neither of these links do anything to support your point. Neither. Come on, timmi, take some ginko and some geritol and get to digging up something good.

You are making yourself look really bad here.
You must be reading a diff language then!
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Old 09-14-2008, 03:55 PM
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http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opini...big_bucks.html

I daresay this paper isn't too left wing for your tender minds
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:04 PM
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http://www.dncreform.com/

Formal declaration from the party of the people,LOL
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Old 09-14-2008, 04:14 PM
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http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opini...big_bucks.html

I daresay this paper isn't too left wing for your tender minds

it's weird how real unbiased news organizations will publish editorials.

and let just anyone take a swing.

you should see the stuff i've found in the wall street journal.

here's some extra exclamation points i have left over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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As any thinking person would surmise, the WMD's were moved to Syria and parts unknown....the entire world believed Saddam had them and wouldn't hesitate to use them

CAN WE GET SOME PHOTOS OR SOMETHING ABOUT THIS? Really,I am serious. If there were WMD moved to another country,then I would like some more proof of it than just saying it. This WMD sell job was the reason he got DEMS to vote to go invade. So, if they actually had WMD( when GEEDUBBYA was selling they had WMD,) I'd like to actually see them some day(or see them being moved around in Syria etc.)
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Old 09-12-2008, 05:49 PM
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CAN WE GET SOME PHOTOS OR SOMETHING ABOUT THIS? Really,I am serious. If there were WMD moved to another country,then I would like some more proof of it than just saying it. This WMD sell job was the reason he got DEMS to vote to go invade. So, if they actually had WMD( when GEEDUBBYA was selling they had WMD,) I'd like to actually see them some day(or see them being moved around in Syria etc.)
of course not.

the intel was wrong. everyone knows it. the administration doesn't even argue the point anymore.
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WMD's moved?

There is on evidence of that whatsoever...
There were no WMD's as defined by the Bush Adm.
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Old 09-12-2008, 07:05 PM
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WMD's moved?

There is on evidence of that whatsoever...
There were no WMD's as defined by the Bush Adm.
Book title is "Disinformation" by Robert Miniter,I think, just one of several out there,not including published reports from Russian and Israeli Intelligence. Sheesh ...you think you'd want to back up your ideas with facts,rather than assumptions. Not just you,P, but others who're so willing to believe the mantra put out by the Left.
And no,Scuds, they don't have film at 11 for you on the movement of WMDs
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Book title is "Disinformation" by Robert Miniter,I think, just one of several out there,not including published reports from Russian and Israeli Intelligence. Sheesh ...you think you'd want to back up your ideas with facts,rather than assumptions. Not just you,P, but others who're so willing to believe the mantra put out by the Left.
And no,Scuds, they don't have film at 11 for you on the movement of WMDs
"facts"...okay...I will bite. Show us a link to your "facts". Surely they exist.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:30 PM
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"facts"...okay...I will bite. Show us a link to your "facts". Surely they exist.
I just gave you a book.....Miniter is an accomplished writer. If you have a library card.....
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Old 09-12-2008, 07:34 PM
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Book title is "Disinformation" by Robert Miniter,I think, just one of several out there,not including published reports from Russian and Israeli Intelligence. Sheesh ...you think you'd want to back up your ideas with facts,rather than assumptions. Not just you,P, but others who're so willing to believe the mantra put out by the Left.
And no,Scuds, they don't have film at 11 for you on the movement of WMDs
Well they never told the Bush administration.

This would not be the Right's version of Michael Moore would it...
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Old 09-12-2008, 07:38 PM
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Well they never told the Bush administration.

This would not be the Right's version of Michael Moore would it...
Even the far out right isnt THIS dumb.
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Old 09-12-2008, 08:31 PM
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Well they never told the Bush administration.

This would not be the Right's version of Michael Moore would it...
I don't BS....read the flap of the book or the summary....God!
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