Keeneland Sale

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

With different types of horses there are different things that I can and cant live with. For example with really heavy horse you need a bit more correct front legs and never back at the knee. With a lanky, lighter horse, often fillies, there is a lot more I can live with if they are athletic enough. certainly I dont mind longer pasterns in horses with turf pedigrees but dont want muc pastern in sprinters or strictly dirt horses. The way a horse moves behind is probably more important in ability. I have had some horses that were awful movers in the front legs but made up for it with superior power behind. All that and one i can afford

Please Chuck it's all Fn luck. You are basically shooting dice.. Look at Point Fn Given monster on the track huge horse and perhap the least correct version of a TB ever. Sunday Silience looked like a dog Hancock couldnt give him away and that 8 mil colt a few years ago was breathe taking and I think he is still working in 38 and change over a 3 variant track lol.. 90% luck 10% skill.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Please Chuck it's all Fn luck. You are basically shooting dice.. Look at Point Fn Given monster on the track huge horse and perhap the least correct version of a TB ever. Sunday Silience looked like a dog Hancock couldnt give him away and that 8 mil colt a few years ago was breathe taking and I think he is still working in 38 and change over a 3 variant track lol.. 90% luck 10% skill.

You are pretty hardcore

[magic_idol]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Please Chuck it's all Fn luck. You are basically shooting dice.. Look at Point Fn Given monster on the track huge horse and perhap the least correct version of a TB ever. Sunday Silience looked like a dog Hancock couldnt give him away and that 8 mil colt a few years ago was breathe taking and I think he is still working in 38 and change over a 3 variant track lol.. 90% luck 10% skill.

While there is definately luck involved if you don't know anything about conformation there are yearlings that will never make the track so imagine spending your lifes money on a yearling that dosnt even make it to a two year old ,Thats why you need to know with conformation what you can get away with & what you can't

You sound like a Odds Man wouldnt you want the Odds more in your favour,?Dosn't mean you win just gives you a better Chance

[Merlinsky]

http://auctions.bloodhorse.com/article/46988.htm

Big Brown's half-sister by Touch Gold didn't sell. Again I don't claim to be a conformation expert but I wouldn't argue with their idea that she's not gonna be ready for much as a 2yo. I'd be afraid of her legs giving out--is that me just not being able to appreciate the lines of a filly or are her forelegs just not impressive in terms of bone?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

http://auctions.bloodhorse.com/article/46988.htm

Big Brown's half-sister by Touch Gold didn't sell. Again I don't claim to be a conformation expert but I wouldn't argue with their idea that she's not gonna be ready for much as a 2yo. I'd be afraid of her legs giving out--is that me just not being able to appreciate the lines of a filly or are her forelegs just not impressive in terms of bone?

pictures are pretty worthless in terms of evaluating conformation because of the angles. If anything she was weak in her hind end. I suppose that I would be a bit concerned if I was IEAH that BB's sister couldnt even draw much live money. Name another stallion who will be in his stud fee range whose sister wouldnt bring $500k regardless of what they looked like. I know Touch Gold isnt exactly a top sire but she wasnt that bad of a horse. Of course without BB in the pedigree she would be selling next weekend.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

pictures are pretty worthless in terms of evaluating conformation because of the angles. If anything she was weak in her hind end. I suppose that I would be a bit concerned if I was IEAH that BB's sister couldnt even draw much live money. Name another stallion who will be in his stud fee range whose sister wouldnt bring $500k regardless of what they looked like. I know Touch Gold isnt exactly a top sire but she wasnt that bad of a horse. Of course without BB in the pedigree she would be selling next weekend.

Agreed 1000%. I was thinking the same thing. Not only angles, but much more as well I would say. I watch every session on the internet, I've been sent pictures of horses, etc. and it's virtually worthless. Unless it's so obvious, but to get into the real details? No way.

Eric

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ELA

Agreed 1000%. I was thinking the same thing. Not only angles, but much more as well I would say. I watch every session on the internet, I've been sent pictures of horses, etc. and it's virtually worthless. Unless it's so obvious, but to get into the real details? No way.

Eric

I looked at a horse today and from every angle she looked great, except one. if you stood directly behind her and watched her front feet hit the ground as she walked away you could tell she was correctively shod, hiding a conformation issue, which in her case was turning in from the fetlocks.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

pictures are pretty worthless in terms of evaluating conformation because of the angles. If anything she was weak in her hind end. I suppose that I would be a bit concerned if I was IEAH that BB's sister couldnt even draw much live money. Name another stallion who will be in his stud fee range whose sister wouldnt bring $500k regardless of what they looked like. I know Touch Gold isnt exactly a top sire but she wasnt that bad of a horse. Of course without BB in the pedigree she would be selling next weekend.

You don't like Touch Gold? I think he's one of the most underrated sires out there. Short, long, dirt, grass, synthetic- seems like his runners are good and versatile, just hasn't had the home run horse (yet).

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

You don't like Touch Gold? I think he's one of the most underrated sires out there. Short, long, dirt, grass, synthetic- seems like his runners are good and versatile, just hasn't had the home run horse (yet).

He may be versatile but he is not considered a book one sire. He may do more damage as a broodmare sire being by Deputy Minister who is a great bm sire

[Cannon Shell]

"Talking about why she traveled from Europe to purchase yearlings in America, Sanderson said, “I think the way breeding is now and the way the gene pool is going it is more sensible to come out of Europe. I think outcrosses are very important and I think it is important for the genetic pool that we go forward"

Another Euro that loves our supposedly "drug weakened" gene pool

[CSC]

Originally Posted by philcski

You don't like Touch Gold? I think he's one of the most underrated sires out there. Short, long, dirt, grass, synthetic- seems like his runners are good and versatile, just hasn't had the home run horse (yet).

Adena Springs sires has an impressive list of Stallians, I agree for 20K live foal fee Touch Gold would almost seem like a bargain. Awesome Again the other Deputy Minister was probably the better Stronach horse when at a time heading into that crazy Breeders Cup Touch Gold seemingly was always considered the better horse.? I have a feeling Ghostzapper will be the sire that gives his dad a run for his money, another Adena Sire to keep eye on could be North Light, by Danehill. 1st time Turf pedigree.

[paisjpq]

congrats to my good friends @ Trackside Farm for today's big filly!

http://auctions.bloodhorse.com/article/47020.htm

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Please Chuck it's all Fn luck. You are basically shooting dice.. Look at Point Fn Given monster on the track huge horse and perhap the least correct version of a TB ever. Sunday Silience looked like a dog Hancock couldnt give him away and that 8 mil colt a few years ago was breathe taking and I think he is still working in 38 and change over a 3 variant track lol.. 90% luck 10% skill.

is it happy hour?