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08-19-2006, 02:44 PM
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Or maybe feed that's had pesticides galore. Then there's the insecticides sprayed everwhere in the stalls. Your guess is as good as mine. 
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08-19-2006, 03:35 PM
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This is so terrible.
 I wish there was something that they could do for him to make him better, but sometimes God has bigger plans. RIP Foggy... may the fields in heaven be lined with champions like yourself.
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08-20-2006, 09:30 AM
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Foggy, I hope they let you stuff yourself full of peppermints and carrots over the next weeks. You deserve them.
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08-20-2006, 12:55 PM
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I just got off the phone cause Sumitas's question about steroids got me thinking. First off, I can not confirm that Lost in the Fog was given steroids. That said, it's pretty common practice to give "canbuterol" (sp?). It's a med similar to what is given to asthma sufferers. It is a steroid. My friend told me that there are some investigations going on right now, and that the "industry" will have to come up with some good answers, whether it's a yearling in the sale ring that's been pumped with anabolic steroids so it looks like a two year old, or other "stuff" that's going on that to boost the wins for certain trainers. Sorry, I can't give out names but you'd know them in a blink. I'm also concerned about "nerve blocks" injections, not just cause it can horse to break down, but also the rider on its back to get hurt or killed. Believe me, this has happened too. That's as much information that I can give you at this time. I'm sure there will be some that want to know more...where did this info come from? are you sure? Sorry...that's all I can say as of now.
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08-20-2006, 01:00 PM
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Oh, this is soooo sad. I am completely devastated.
I knew something was really wrong with him, but gosh. I'm heartbroken. LITF must have had a huge heart to have won a race and ran a good second this year with his body ate up with cancer. What a horse! I'm sorry old boy. May you be able to win all the sprints in heaven my dear boy. Thanks for the wonderful run last year. RIP....I'll miss you.
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08-20-2006, 01:08 PM
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very good DTS...just look back at Lyle Alzado...these yearlings that look like 2 or even 3 year olds, it just does not make sense.
again LITF brings up some questions so that he does not die in vain. a picture of what a yearling typically looks like from the auction in France http://sports.yahoo.com/rah/photo?sl..._am&prov=getty without steroids. Last edited by sumitas : 08-20-2006 at 01:26 PM.
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08-20-2006, 01:42 PM
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The only question is, why is it so rare to see these tumors then? (In the case of LITF everyone is totally shocked). There is no doubt in anyone's mind to many "meds" are used and to horses detriment by everyone. There is no doubt 2 year olds are pumped up by steroids, so why does this seem to be rare if it is the cause in LITF?
Some info on clenbuterol. http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-clenbuterol.asp http://www.cas.psu.edu/docs/CASDEPT/...qui/08981.html
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08-20-2006, 05:45 PM
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DTS, I'm not doubting you one whit about the use of steroids and other illegal drugs; I'm just skeptical as to it increasing a horse's cancer risk because I would think we'd see more instances of cancer then, you know?
Does it increase cancer risk in humans? I thought steroid use damaged the heart, but I don't know of it being linked to cancers. Anyone know anything about this?
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08-20-2006, 05:56 PM
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It could be linked (Brain, Liver) but this is with heavy use over a long term period. LITF's cancer is a statistic, a very low statistic but unfortunately his number was picked.
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08-20-2006, 06:13 PM
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I have nothing concerning proof of anything causing LITF's illness. I said so in my post. Cancer is something that has been forefront in my son's and my thoughts, ever since a form (neuroblastoma) took my nephew so many years ago...same one that took the little girl of Alex's lemonade stand fame...and all the efforts of the good folks like racing Samm that have done their best to fund the research. Findings indicate that there are "genetic triggers' like fgf 15, fgf 8, and many others that cause different forms of cancer. It's part of the quest to find the conditions that cause these "triggers" to fire. My "guess" is that there are chemical conditions that contribute...and I'm not a bio-chemist nor a developmental biologist like my son is. I wish we knew. I really hope the answers to this devastating disease, it's causes and remedies are found soon. So, to answer you both, I really don't know. DTS
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08-20-2006, 09:37 PM
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Lost in the Fog has brought me alot of joy and fun over the last couple of years. One of the few horses I have gone way out of my way to see race . I'm truly devastated by the news, and feel so sorry for his owner and trainer. I know they loved that horse. I'll never forget the live TV interview for our ktvu.com morning news Russell Baze did with Lost in the Fog in the background. The horse had amazing camera presence and timing. He was uncanny. Very very enjoyable. I understand the speculation on what caused the cancer. That's fair and relevant conversation, it's OK to speculate. As long as we're speculating I'll point out that Lost in the Fog spent much of his life at Golden Gate Fields, immediately adjacent to the waters of San Francisco Bay. And just downwind from some major oil refineries in Richmond, Martinez and Benicia, also on the Bay. I have no idea how Golden Gate Fields interacts with San Francisco Bay waters, but I will tell you that most marine biologists recommend minimum consumption of anything that comes out of much of the Bay water. Also, it might be relevant to note that there is an extraordinarily high incidence of breast cancer in the women of Marin County. There has been for years. There have been many studies, but no commonly accepted theory of why. Marin is north of the Golden Gate Bridge, and also on the waters of San Francisco Bay. Both Marin and the Golden Gate Bridge, as well as San Francisco Bay, are visible from Golden Gate Fields. I wish comfort, warmth, and strength for Lost in the Fog and his connections. Last edited by westcoastinvader : 08-20-2006 at 09:52 PM.
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