mccain's vp

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Yes, you are giving them to me big boy. Its that sexy, romantic talk like "u slurp my large ass" that really gets me going.

But seriously though, libertarian or not, surely you have an opinion on a side because Ron Paul certainly aint gettin it.

Come on, dont be chicken s h i t. Put up or shut up. I will bet you a 1000 on Obama right now.

Are you game? Or are you just a loud mouth that can make "hypothetical" wagers and not real ones?

I admit, you do the hypotheticals really well. But the real ones? Lets see.

Bob Barr, not Ron Paul.

I'm not betting on the presidential election at even odds. If I wanted to take McCain I would take the odds on a betting exchange.

Now if you want to give...say 5 percentage points at even odds I'll take that for $1000. And really if the democrats don't win by more than 5 points after 8 years of coke head then they should cancel the inauguration and let him go in quietly.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Bob Barr, not Ron Paul.

I'm not betting on the presidential election at even odds. If I wanted to take McCain I would take the odds on a betting exchange.

Now if you want to give...say 5 percentage points at even odds I'll take that for $1000. And really if the democrats don't win by more than 5 points after 8 years of coke head then they should cancel the inauguration and let him go in quietly.

That a built in cop out. If the republicans win you can say "the dems suck. they should have won". and if the dems win "they should have won by more".

5 percentage points? LOL

How about electoral spread?

Originally Posted by dalakhani

That a built in cop out. If the republicans win you can say "the dems suck. they should have won". and if the dems win "they should have won by more".

5 percentage points? LOL

How about electoral spread?

5 percentage points is nothing considering the majority of polls have Obama ahead by much more.

Plus when you look at America today all you see are emasculated men and hopeless women that are looking for someone to come in on a purple horse with pink wings and save them. And Obama is their man. They watch what he says on the boob tube and let out grunts of approval and claps smearing the orange-stained fingers over each other.

I'm an edge player. F.uck your candidate at even odds.

[ninetoone]

From some random internet article dated 9/3...

We know the pollsters and pundits all have their predictions and opinions but when you want to know the real odds on the election you always want to check with the sports books. For some reason the "bookies" are usually right! As of today Barack Obama is a significant favorite.

Of course betting on elections is illegal in the United States but just for entertainment purposes here are the latest odds on McCain vs. Obama.

John McCain is 3-2 (For every $200 wagered you'd win $300)

Barack Obama is 1-2 (For every $200 wagered you'd win $100)

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

5 percentage points is nothing considering the majority of polls have Obama ahead by much more.

Plus when you look at America today all you see are emasculated men and hopeless women that are looking for someone to come in on a purple horse with pink wings and save them. And Obama is their man. They watch what he says on the boob tube and let out grunts of approval and claps smearing the orange-stained fingers over each other.

I'm an edge player. F.uck your candidate at even odds.

I think its both sides. Look at all of the morons on here that saw this mayor of alaska and decided that she was the best thing since wheat bread. Look at the dorks like arljim78 (i will bet you 2-1 that he is a virgin!) that think she is the female Reagan reincarnated and if that were so it would be a good thing.

We need the cokehead out of office. I am not saying Obama is the next FDR but it is something different. mccain is the same damn thing.

We will find something else to wager on.

Goodnight Coach. Slurp your ass...and give me the blog link.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I think its both sides. Look at all of the morons on here that saw this mayor of alaska and decided that she was the best thing since wheat bread. Look at the dorks like arljim78 (i will bet you 2-1 that he is a virgin!) that think she is the female Reagan reincarnated and if that were so it would be a good thing.

We need the cokehead out of office. I am not saying Obama is the next FDR but it is something different. mccain is the same damn thing.

We will find something else to wager on.

Goodnight Coach. Slurp your ass...and give me the blog link.

isn't she the governor of alaska? agree or disagree with palins policy, i don't understand why some (sally quinn for one) are attacking her as being a young mom, so why is she running? the sexism right now is amazing. did anyone question why jfk was running? or obama now? it's ridiculous.

as someone who has voted for both democrats and republicans, i can say it's not easy to choose in this election. you have mccain, who is shunned by many ultra-conservatives (which imo is a good thing) and obama who hasn't got much of a track record to truly get a feel for him-but based on what voting record he has, is considered more of a liberal. since i consider myself middle of the road, i usually sway more towards middle of the road candidates.

but both candidates support parts of the constitution, while rejecting others. both agree with things i agree with, and both disagree with others. it's a difficult choice.

many vote based only on the abortion issue. i personally don't think roe v wade will be overturned regardless, so it's a non issue for me.

i still haven't decided who i will vote for, and am waiting for the debates. i didn't watch a moment of either convention, as it teaches you nothing. both sides are there with only their supporters, and would have made speeches designed to rev up their base, and produce talking points. they're meaningless.


but regardless of who wins, we'll all be just fine. since congress ultimately makes all laws, produces all budgets, it's in their court to steer this country. all the president can do on the domestic front in this respects is sign or veto legislation. he doesn't write one damn bit of it, so to suggest that a prez balanced a budget or did away with a deficit is laughable.

the cokehead will be out of office soon regardless of who wins the election.

[Mike]

I gotta' let the late great Reverend George Carlin be my political guide. If you have never seen him on Bill Maher's HBO show(or the old Politically InCorrect), check him out on YOUTUBE. It may offend some here who might have liked him otherwise(atheist liberal that he was). He would get very, very angry with the conservative guests on, and he let them know in no uncertain terms

Politicians hide behind God, guns and children, he would say

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but regardless of who wins, we'll all be just fine. since congress ultimately makes all laws, produces all budgets, it's in their court to steer this country. all the president can do on the domestic front in this respects is sign or veto legislation. he doesn't write one damn bit of it, so to suggest that a prez balanced a budget or did away with a deficit is laughable.

Danzig has a huge point here...if you really want to make a difference...vote out the Congress people who are do nothing and there are a sh^t load of them. Vote out those that aren't willing to work together to find solutions - enough of pointing the finger at the other guy/girl and blaming them. ..For if you are pointing - you are the problem.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Everybody hates congress overall but loves their guy.

The incumbent wins virtually everytime - often in a landslide.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Danzig has a huge point here...if you really want to make a difference...vote out the Congress people who are do nothing and there are a sh^t load of them. Vote out those that aren't willing to work together to find solutions - enough of pointing the finger at the other guy/girl and blaming them. ..For if you are pointing - you are the problem.

many of those who rousted out their incumbents in the last election are now facing an approval rating in the single digits. and many of those voted in ran on a platform of change. yet we're worse off than a year ago.
it angers me that a growing majority of the population wants to drill here at home-yet the speaker of the house won't allow a vote. this is NOT a dictatorship, and one person should not have the right to bar a vote. whether allowing drilling and more off shore would pass or not, i don't know-but at least allow discussion and a vote!

Originally Posted by dalakhani

I think its both sides. Look at all of the morons on here that saw this mayor of alaska and decided that she was the best thing since wheat bread. Look at the dorks like arljim78 (i will bet you 2-1 that he is a virgin!) that think she is the female Reagan reincarnated and if that were so it would be a good thing.

We need the cokehead out of office. I am not saying Obama is the next FDR but it is something different. mccain is the same damn thing.

We will find something else to wager on.

Goodnight Coach. Slurp your ass...and give me the blog link.

The deciding factor in every election are the people who don't hold a strong bond with any party. Usually these people are extremely dumb, lazy, indecisive and fat. They vote primarily for more stuff. Whoever promises the most stuff gets their vote.

Right now Obama is playing the economy card acting like we're on the verge of becoming another Sudan. It's working.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

The deciding factor in every election are the people who don't hold a strong bond with any party. Usually these people are extremely dumb, lazy, indecisive and fat. They vote primarily for more stuff. Whoever promises the most stuff gets their vote.

Right now Obama is playing the economy card acting like we're on the verge of becoming another Sudan. It's working.

Aren't Danzig n' PGRDN 2 examples of people that don't hold a strong bond with any party? I guess those are just exceptions to your extremely dumb, lazy, indecisive and fat theory.........The economy card? He is interested in improving the economy, and McCain seems more interested in "victory" in Iraq(seems if you've wasted a trillion dollars n' over 4000 Americans, then I don't understand how that will ever be a "victory.") When you get a victory, don't you defeat a foe? Soon as we leave, they will fight each other. Seems that those in favor of that war think the people there want Democracy. They don't. So, really a victory(a lasting Democracy in the Middle East) there is impossible.Whether we leave now, or in 2 years(and another 1000 lost Americans,) these people are gunna have a war for control of this s-h-i-t hole. The only way to keep that place a Democracy is to stay there and pour more money and lives away. That's exactly what McCain will do(stay there.) He is a stubborn goat, and he will not leave there. Our economy will continue to be savaged by the cost of that war. We will keep losing ground to the E.U. The dollar will continue to lose ground against the Euro and the British Pound. They don't have to throw their money away in Iraq (like we do.) There is no doubt the economy will be better under OBAMA. Simply not wasting the resources we throw away in Iraq gives him the economic edge. The European Countries are beating us economically, and that's not gunna change with McCain/Palin. We may be a bit safer(maybe,) but we are gunna lose more n' more ground (economically.) People need to realize the size of the national debt, and stop throwing the people's money away in a stupid effort to tame savages. All you can do is contain them. Their religion abhors freedom. Stop trying to make them want it(they don't..they never will want that.) If you want Democracy there, then you'll have to stay there(and spend the money n' lives necessary) and impose it on them, because they don't want it. Expensive little experiment. It's like turning saltwater into drinking water(you can do it if you want to pay the high price.)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Aren't Danzig n' PGRDN 2 examples of people that don't hold a strong bond with any party? I guess those are just exceptions to your extremely dumb, lazy, indecisive and fat theory.........The economy card? He is interested in improving the economy, and McCain seems more interested in "victory" in Iraq(seems if you've wasted a trillion dollars n' over 4000 Americans, then I don't understand how that will ever be a "victory.") When you get a victory, don't you defeat a foe? Soon as we leave, they will fight each other. Seems that those in favor of that war think the people there want Democracy. They don't. So, really a victory(a lasting Democracy in the Middle East) there is impossible.Whether we leave now, or in 2 years(and another 1000 lost Americans,) these people are gunna have a war for control of this s-h-i-t hole. The only way to keep that place a Democracy is to stay there and pour more money and lives away. That's exactly what McCain will do(stay there.) He is a stubborn goat, and he will not leave there. Our economy will continue to be savaged by the cost of that war. We will keep losing ground to the E.U. The dollar will continue to lose ground against the Euro and the British Pound. They don't have to throw their money away in Iraq (like we do.) There is no doubt the economy will be better under OBAMA. Simply not wasting the resources we throw away in Iraq gives him the economic edge. The European Countries are beating us economically, and that's not gunna change with McCain/Palin. We may be a bit safer(maybe,) but we are gunna lose more n' more ground (economically.) People need to realize the size of the national debt, and stop throwing the people's money away in a stupid effort to tame savages. All you can do is contain them. Their religion abhors freedom. Stop trying to make them want it(they don't..they never will want that.) If you want Democracy there, then you'll have to stay there(and spend the money n' lives necessary) and impose it on them, because they don't want it. Expensive little experiment. It's like turning saltwater into drinking water(you can do it if you want to pay the high price.)

i'm none of those four things for sure scuds, you have a point. party/politics is one thing, what's best for this country is another.
i have to say the more i listen to conservative talk radio, the more disgusted i get with the conservatives, the republican 'base' and the ultra right. i understand rush limbaugh was dammed unhappy when mccain said he wasn't a party man, as rush believes it's party (as long as it's the republican party) before all. that's insane. both parties actually come up with good ideas on occasion, neither speaks to most citizens, so how can either one always be the right, or best one? depends on the topic i think.
as for imposing democracy, that's the most ironic thing ever. take this democracy or else! and it's true, you can't make people want it, or accept it. we wouldn't want another country coming here and demanding we change our govt, or our way of life, so who are we to do the same?

as for the economy, absolutely it's #1. but what intrigues me in that respect is that obama thinks he can offer more, but he essentially wants to keep bushes tax scheme, while only raising taxes on the rich, and by increasing capital gains taxes. so the debt, the deficit, won't be going anywhere.

inflation is rampant. why? oil and energy are the main reasons why we're having out of control inflation. solving, or working towards solving that problem will help the economy in general. won't solve all the problems, but it's quite a start.
also, highways and such are suffering fund-wise, as tax receipts are down since we're not travelling-so our infrastructure will suffer. both candidates have to have a realistic view of our natural resources and whether it would be in our best interest to start using our own, rather than buying from overseas. i guarantee that opec doesn't want us to drill for more of our own, as they have only one real source of income in that area. we bought from them, and ignored our own potential oil and gas markets because they were cheaper. that's no longer the case.